Post by michaeljohnson on Nov 7, 2008 1:14:49 GMT -5
Flowerpower-said he wanted to see how far Rebsie lived from his relatives in England- and he said it didn't seem all that far to Manchester from there,
Flowerpower- it would take almost a full days driving to get there on out traffic congested motorways with lot's of stops and starts etc, quite a long drag- I bet if you set off in a car at around 9.00am you would not hit the outskirts of Manchester before about 2.30 in the afternoon, and be quite knackered by the time you got there.
Yes Michael, unfortunately you're right! Manchester is not too far 'as the crow flies' but to actually get there on our diabolical roads or inefficient trains would be an exhausting day's travel. England may be a small country but it has a serious overcrowding problem and even a car journey of 20 or 30 miles can be stressful enough to reduce me to tears.
Michael, I assume from your use of the word 'knackered' that you're British too then?
Post by michaeljohnson on Nov 10, 2008 1:01:07 GMT -5
Rebsie- did you know that there is an excellent variety of Red or Purple podded peas available in the UK- called (Desiree)- available from www.plantsofdistinction.co.uk they also have a lot of other very interesting items and loads of tomatoes etc.
Oh"- and I almost forgot Rebsie, yes I am british too and live in jolly old Nottingham, my main interest is tomato and pepper growing, but I dabble in other interesting things also from time to time.
Nottingham, eh? My husband is from Derby, just "across the road".
Ah yes, Desiree peas are good and I've been doing some breeding experiments with them. Lovely dark purple pods and beautiful flowers. Thanks very much for the link to Plants of Distinction ... as you say they have a lot of very interesting stuff, including a couple of things I'd been looking for. I don't know how I managed not to know about them before! So thanks for the tip-off.
Post by michaeljohnson on Nov 11, 2008 0:50:29 GMT -5
Rebsie- it is best if you order the catalogue from Plants of Distinction, especially the Vegetable catalogue, as it shows you all the varieties they keep and makes very interesting reading, they are a very reliable firm and I can personally vouch for them, and have been using them for around four years now, they have got a lot of rare stuff and old scarce stuff, about a hundred varieties of Tomatoes, same in hot and sweet peppers etc,
How cool is that? You live in freaking nottingham, when I got your package in the mail my fiance couldn't help but make the Robin Hood joke, particularly pertaining to the above top secret tomato seeds you sent me! LOL.
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Post by michaeljohnson on Nov 12, 2008 0:51:05 GMT -5
Actually- Robin Hood is a fictitious character and not real, although some people think he is, and have spent years trying to prove it, but the theory is that he is based on the william Tell character from Austria who is real. There are reams of historical papers dealing with Robin Hood but unfortunately none can be proven-in fact two sets of people each claiming that Robin Hood lived in different areas to Nottingham almost came to blows about it, one had him living as far away as Doncaster and the other claimed he was from Yorkshire- and so it goes on.
How fantastic Rebsie. You've reinspired me. I've been meaning to have a go at pea breeding ever since getting hold of Deppe's book some years back. Now I'll have to get cracking and try for a red pod too! We'll have to create our own downunder because we can't import peas (or any leguminous veggie for that matter) except at great expense!
Ray Silty loam over clay, pH 5.5, altitude 1000m, latitude 30deg south, 150 frost free days.
Purple on yellow gives red. How wonderful, original and unexpected. Should make a red snap with the right parents. Will be doing just that this year. Carol Deppe will be so glad to have been an inspiration to yourself and other folks. Your posts have inspired me. Thanks
Post by americangardener on Feb 8, 2009 14:33:11 GMT -5
I love how all the experts are getting interested now. I haven't a clue as to how to breed peas, but i'm definately inspired by Rebsie's projects too.
I would think you should have some great stock to work with there Alan K. I would think the Sugar magnolia would make a good one for the purple parent. But, then i don't know a thing about breeding either... i'm just guessing at it.
Do you have any ideas which would make some potential ones to use from your varieties Mr Kapuler? I don't have much for the yellow parent... basically just what Rebsie was kind enough to send me from her F3's and Opal creek and Golden Sweet. But, it should be enough to attempt several different crosses with a couple of purple parents.
Thank you for your very nice comment, Dr K, it really means a lot to me. I do have much cause to thank you and Carol for a great deal of inspiration ... her book changed my life.
A red snap was very much in my thoughts too when I got this result. I'll be working on that this year. I'm wondering what a cross of Opal Creek and Sugar Magnolia might come out like. It'll be exciting to try some things out and compare results!
Thanks for joining our friendly community, it's really good to see you here.
-for me, this is truly a renewal of interest in peas -as you observe and discuss in 'Soup Peas', the purple podded ones are bitter and so it was when the first purple podded snap vine had bitter pods -sitting in the greenhouse this morning, making notes about Lomatiums (PNW biscuit roots), my mind kept coming back to how i got seeds for the Parsley Bush Pea and whatever encouraged me to cross it to the bitter purple podded snap -at least now with purple pod (Sugar Magnolia) and yellow pod (Opal Creek) snap vines as parents, there maybe some interesting results -the cross of Spring Blush with Opal Creek is also on the agenda -as Bi Jihuan says "the cooperation is pleased"
Post by americangardener on Jun 10, 2009 23:35:33 GMT -5
Rebsie?? where are ya?
Don't know if these are the same lines as what you already posted pictures of.. but i have that MBPxA F3's you sent me. I guess i could try and post a picture here and see if it works. Otherwise i'll have to start uploading pictures to photobucket or something. So far i've got one plant that has one red pod on it. It's got 5 more pink/drk pink blossoms on this same plant. They're all doubles. I'll let you know if any of the rest of the plants produce any red podded ones. I've got to go re-read your tutorial on how to hand pollinate.. i just haven't gotten around to it yet. I'm try to cross one of the F3's that produced green pods with another early variety called yellow pollen. That's all that had blossoms on it at the time.. now i've got another variety called universal that is blosssoming.. and some king tuts. The first couple with the yellow pollen parent seemed to have worked.. i have no way of knowing if i did it right or not though.. all i know is they have pods on em after i desicrated those blossoms. idigmygarden.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=34&pictureid=2071 idigmygarden.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=34&pictureid=2067 idigmygarden.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=34&pictureid=2069 idigmygarden.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=34&pictureid=2068