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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Mar 22, 2017 5:45:20 GMT -5
Really? I feel like Opal Creek has fared not too well when it heats up or summer is nigh. Though perhaps one summer it did hang on. hmm.. will have to watch it this year. After Ethin said some of the 2015 seed i sent Joseph, which Joseph then sent to him had some F1 or F2 crossed seed in it maybe from the attempted crosses i did in 2015 i decided to add my remaining 2015 seed for Sugar Magnolia and Opal Creek to this years planting in hope the same may be true for that saved seed. I also can use them in new potential crosses.
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Post by philagardener on Mar 22, 2017 18:50:00 GMT -5
Not to get hopes to high, it just seemed like the last one to shut down flowering when the heat starts.
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Post by galina on Mar 23, 2017 14:03:16 GMT -5
galina, Jupiter is low fibre - the OG cross is about getting sweet green peas inside the swelling pod. And a bit bigger pod. Jupiter is highly disease resistant - it was bred out of 'Chamber of Death', the best survivor from a plant testing trial. at least for Aussie diseases. T Interesting, Templeton. I wasn't aware of Chamber of Death pea trials. Nothing on search engine apart from what is written here on the forum. Sounds like survivors must be tough peas.
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Post by diane on Mar 23, 2017 14:50:12 GMT -5
has anybody else noticed differences in different batches of Golden Sweet? I bought Golden Sweet from Prairie Garden and noticed variation in the seed colours, so sorted them into five lots and grew them separately: all the seeds were mottled but ranged from pale tan through to red-brown and dark brown. I saw no difference in pod colours. Diane
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Post by galina on Mar 23, 2017 17:50:12 GMT -5
I bought Golden Sweet from Prairie Garden and noticed variation in the seed colours, so sorted them into five lots and grew them separately: all the seeds were mottled but ranged from pale tan through to red-brown and dark brown. I saw no difference in pod colours. Diane . Thank you Diane, yes the seed colours are rather varied, but I had different pods too, one paler one more golden yellow. And the paler one was a little smaller. But I must add that this is from memory, because it is only this year that I am growing both and will be able to compare both. They could still be identical after all and the observed differences may be explained by seasonal variations. I have done exactly the same, grown the brown ones, the purple ones and the green ones with lighter purple speckle and made the same discovery you did. This variety (and several other varieties) have naturally variable seeds.
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Post by templeton on Mar 24, 2017 3:11:48 GMT -5
Galina, 'Chamber of Death' was our nickname for it on an aussie forum. The exact details of it's provenance remain obscure, suffice to say it came out of a disease testing greenhouse (the chamber of death) where pea lines were being tested for disease resistance - it was the stand out survivor.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Mar 24, 2017 23:17:49 GMT -5
I've heard of Chamber of Death peas before. I was under the impression some of the Oregon bred snow peas came about from that trial and were bred with those resistance genes. (Oregon Sugar Pod II and/or Oregon Giant?) Here is a photo of Golden Sweet the last time i grew it: Golden, sure. But sweet? not really.
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Post by steev on Mar 25, 2017 0:37:15 GMT -5
Looks greener and twice as big as any I've grown.
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Post by templeton on Mar 25, 2017 7:21:33 GMT -5
I've heard of Chamber of Death peas before. I was under the impression some of the Oregon bred snow peas came about from that trial and were bred with those resistance genes. (Oregon Sugar Pod II and/or Oregon Giant?) only if they were bred in Adelaide T
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Mar 25, 2017 10:44:09 GMT -5
I've heard of Chamber of Death peas before. I was under the impression some of the Oregon bred snow peas came about from that trial and were bred with those resistance genes. (Oregon Sugar Pod II and/or Oregon Giant?) only if they were bred in Adelaide T Well i meant that i had heard they used the Chamber of Death as parents. At Oregon State Uni. But i could be completely wrong so don't take my vague second hand knowledge as fact.
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Post by galina on Mar 26, 2017 4:07:48 GMT -5
My Golden Sweet is the same length but not as green. The second batch was shorter podded and did look paler. This year, grown side by side with the same weather conditions, will be answering for definite whether they are the same or similar. Thank you for the photo keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) .
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on May 23, 2017 13:59:34 GMT -5
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Post by steev on May 23, 2017 14:23:32 GMT -5
Those would be nice salad-tips.
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Post by galina on May 24, 2017 9:13:49 GMT -5
Keen, Ooooh, even the tendrils are half red. What a beauty!
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Post by galina on May 28, 2017 17:53:24 GMT -5
Last year I made crosses with the snap pea with the most solid purple I know, to get over the loss of colour I had with the red pea project based on Shiraz pollen. I used Alan Kapuler's Sugar Magnolia. Crossed it with a yellow mangetout pea/snow pea and secondly with a yellow podded snap pea. I am growing the F1s this year. I have partially purple pods in all 6 plants of both crosses. Is this what you would expect or have I had another loss of purple colour (which would mean no proper red colour in the F2 is possible) and should start again?
I don't know how to interpret this F1 phenotype.
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