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Post by greeneyes on Jan 21, 2009 23:02:15 GMT -5
What can any of you tell me about Hopi pale grey and Hopi orange squashes..Any info will be appreciated....Dawn
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Post by wolfcub on Jan 22, 2009 1:26:06 GMT -5
Hi Dawn I can tell you that they are both maximas. Hopi Orange is classed as Tradition-Rare-Hardy annual 10 to 15 lb fruit days to maturity 90-110 (seeds of change) is were I got my seed from. informatio on the Hopi Pale Grey can be found on the Baker Creek Heirloom seeds site they don't give much info on the package I hope to try one or the other of these this year. Hope this info helps Marj
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Post by grungy on Jan 22, 2009 3:14:24 GMT -5
Hopi Pale grey is in the 3-5 pound range here and football shaped, paleish grey in color. Great taste. Have a few seeds from the ones we raised last summer, if you are interested. There is a Hopi Black also - but I am not sure whether the seeds I saved are viable.
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Post by greeneyes on Jan 25, 2009 13:06:19 GMT -5
Thanks for info....10-15 lbs??? I don't think I'd better be too ambitious on that one,maybe get a few growing and only let one squash per vine grow... The pale grey seems to be a better size...I can easily remove the seeds and get others to take the cut squash if it is small but a 10-15 pounder??Everybody I know will be closing the curtains,locking their doors,shutting off the phone when they see me coming.. No,I don't need any seeds,I got them..Thanks for the offer though...I was wondering if they were hard to grow or not...Is there anything I need to know to grow them well?. Dawn
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Post by johno on Jan 25, 2009 18:03:56 GMT -5
I might be thinking of the wrong squash... but I think I read somewhere that Hopi Orange has good insect resistance for a maxima.
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Post by greeneyes on Jan 25, 2009 18:48:11 GMT -5
Johno,I was just reading up on the Hopi orange and you are right,it is supposed to have good resistance to squash bugs..That is good news...Dawn
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Post by johno on Jan 25, 2009 23:59:17 GMT -5
Greeneyes, I just noticed your location is NW Indiana - know where Koontz lake is?
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Post by greeneyes on Jan 26, 2009 0:35:58 GMT -5
Johno,For sure I know where Koontz Lake is,but I am about sixty miles away from it,I am more in the upper north west corner of Indiana,not far from Lake Michigan..I am closer to Chicago than Koontz Lake..Not familiar with it at all..Dawn
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Post by Alan on Jan 26, 2009 14:42:03 GMT -5
Hopi Orange is a good Maxima for insect resistance, it does show some amount of resistance to insects and was the only Maxima to perform well for us during our striped cucumber beetle attack last season. The taste and look is there as well. Definitely try this one if you enjoy Maximas for taste and texture but despise their insect resistance or lack thereof if you will.
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Post by canadamike on Mar 12, 2009 0:58:10 GMT -5
I just went through a list of genus and/or species with C4 ''members''. Cucurbitacae are in there . Does anybody know which species/cultivars have C4 characteristics? For those not knowing what C4 is, it is an evolutive adaptation of photosynthesis found in plants mostly in hot arid climates with the advantage of preventing loss of water... www.palaeobiology.org.uk/projects_05.htmDominique from Kokopelli was talking to me about C4 yesterday and I was a bit lost. I remember having studied it 30 or so years ago but I can't remember the french term we used to describe it. I don't recall it, but I am pretty sure it was not C4. I only remember how incredibly bored we were while the professor was going through the description of the chemical exchanges and enzymes at work... Despite how boring this professor was, this was nevertheless cool stuff once you had accepted the fact you would never get the hot girl behind the bar by repeating any of it . Kind of like sex: fun to know how it works untill somebody gets into the stuff at the molecular level...
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Post by ottawagardener on Mar 12, 2009 7:11:39 GMT -5
What those molecules get up to some kinky stuff what with folding of proteins and so on.
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Post by Alan on Mar 12, 2009 23:20:11 GMT -5
Just a guess Mike, but I'm thinking that native South Western and Mexican varieties of Cucurbrita Mixta would be a good starting point considering their traditional habitat and use in dry land farming techniques, they would have to have some advantage in the heat and drought to be grown continuously by the native peoples across the range they inhabit.
Just as a not to those interested in the "cushaw group" squashes, if you really want to play with some insect tolerance, drought tolerance, and beauty, go please and check out Native Seeds Search as the collection is unparallelled.
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Post by canadamike on Mar 12, 2009 23:49:38 GMT -5
Thanks Alan, going there right now...
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Post by macmex on Mar 14, 2009 8:53:22 GMT -5
I probably have a variety with this c4 characteristic. It's a Calabaza de Castilla from Ixmiquilpan, Hidalgo, Mexico. When we lived there I grew a number of squash, including this one. It's THE native squash of hot country in most of the country, coming in a number of variations of size and shape, but all with about the same qualities. When my USA squashes had to be coddled, this one grew like a weed. Here's a picture of one harvest, back in the 90s. That's my youngest daughter, now over 18. I'm sure this is a c. moschata. George
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Post by canadamike on Mar 14, 2009 13:47:16 GMT -5
Sure looks like a lot of pictures of almost wild moschatas I have seed from south america. Would you be kind enough to ship a few seeds to Dan from Syria?? I'll pm you his adress...
Thanks
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