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Post by happyskunk on Dec 13, 2009 5:57:49 GMT -5
I do not know much about corn but while testing out the germination of some seeds I just bought I found out that Oaxacan Green corn sprouts are yummy. Like some kind of candy. Hopefully I'm not just tasting some kind of chemical they put on these. It does not say organic on the package. Looking forward to growing this summer. Skunkster
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Post by ottawagardener on Dec 13, 2009 18:00:38 GMT -5
Interesting. I was thinking of trying Oaxacan Green. Now if I don't bother to process it, I can sprout it! Sounds delicious P.S. You know, while I science major in Uni many, many years ago, the term organic would crack me up. I started asking if people were eating Copper apples or those new fangled organic kinds.... I now respect the term and have always been an organic gardener but I had to get over the word usage first.
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Post by happyskunk on Dec 13, 2009 23:01:40 GMT -5
I would have to order one of the only corn varieties not certified organic at SSE. What is the likelihood that this seed is GMO contaminated?
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Post by canadamike on Dec 14, 2009 0:54:42 GMT -5
lonelywhistle farm, in Eugene, Oregon carry it certified organic, although it is not listed, they have some...talk to Kasey...
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Post by happyskunk on Dec 14, 2009 1:21:05 GMT -5
Thanks canadamike, I added lonelywhistle farm to my bookmarks
John
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Post by Alan on Dec 15, 2009 19:21:18 GMT -5
Oaxacan Green is an ok corn for feed production or for human consumption.
It is small eared, a bit daylength sensitive, and not overly productive, but the color is stunning and there are some valuable drought genetics and color genetics within the corn.
The green coloration is the result of yellow and purple expressing in the same place so the green is actually an illusion, but very hard to come by any other way than by using this corn.
Two years after finding the original in some Astronomy Domine mixed progeny I still have only a handful of green colored sweet corn seed and haven't had luck last year in increasing the trait, it continues to segregate into yellow and red and avoids green!
One day however, I promise you all, I will introduce a green sweet corn, I even planned two names for two lines: Audrey III Kryptonite
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Post by grunt on Dec 15, 2009 21:06:28 GMT -5
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Post by happyskunk on Dec 15, 2009 22:44:57 GMT -5
What other varieties of corn have valuable drought genetics? With zero rain in the summer and expensive water I'm definitely worried about how I'm going to keep things green without going broke.
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Post by happyskunk on Dec 16, 2009 2:40:25 GMT -5
While searching "drought tolerant heirloom corn"I found this nice article on companion planting -> www.scribd.com/doc/2521880/Com-Plant it shows traditional planting designs. Wampanoag, Hidatsa, and Zuni Waffle Garden. I think I might try this.
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Post by grunt on Dec 16, 2009 7:34:31 GMT -5
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Post by bunkie on Dec 16, 2009 12:32:55 GMT -5
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Post by Alan on Dec 16, 2009 18:17:54 GMT -5
Native Seeds/SEARCH has a ton of drought tolerant varieties, some of them are pretty inbred, but selections and breeding mixes can be made of many of them and several, particularly those adapted to high dessert conditions, would do well for you likely with a bit of selective breeding.
Tuxpeno varieties are good for drought tolerance.
Painted Mountain as well.
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Post by happyskunk on Dec 16, 2009 22:24:43 GMT -5
Now you got me thinking about growing a mixture of drought tolerant varieties after reading about your breeding projects. I like the color of the Vadito Blue on Native Seeds/SEARCH.
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Post by Alan on Dec 17, 2009 13:31:37 GMT -5
Vadito blue is one of the better lines that Native Seeds carries, a beautiful corn, highly productive here, a lot less inbred than most of their lines, I'm increasing it right now and selecting for future release. My suggestion would be to pick out a couple of other blue corns with similar DTM as Vadito and make a genepool, you should pull out some wonderful genetics from the recombinations there.
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Post by silverseeds on Dec 17, 2009 13:41:41 GMT -5
Im going to be growing vadito blue next year actually. thats terrible they ar ehaving inbreeding issues, wonder if thats why a few varieties I tried from them did so poorly.....
I STRONGLY recommend MOJAVE from native seeds.
Im going to be doing a full grow out of it for next year...... It is a flour corn, pretty short plants, I havent seen it in its full glory, but just in a small test last year, to see if I had a corn, which would grow in my umamended soil I trialed it and others.... I had 20 or so plants CRAMMED together, and gave them limited water. It seemed to be growing fine for awhile then appeared to be dieing, I forgot about it, only later did I realise despite having NO water for two or more weeks before it tassled, it still had two ears per plant. Its also VERY fast. Rather tasty flour to I might add.
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