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Post by darwinslair on Aug 14, 2011 11:00:28 GMT -5
I have a 150 year old grain mill that my wife found on Craig's List. It was listed as a "corn shucker" with a photo. It weighs about 100#s and has a big fly wheel, cast iron, and I love it <smile>. If you can luck into something like that, get it. Tom
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Post by 12540dumont on Aug 14, 2011 15:43:49 GMT -5
Well, a couple of years ago I went to Minnesota. The boys were miffed that I stopped at every barn sale and antique sale that I could find between Nevada and Minnesota, looking for shuckers, grinders, etc. Nothing. But I did come home with a cool machine for making rope.
I'm very envious. If another turns up in your neighborhood, let me know.
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Post by darwinslair on Aug 20, 2011 4:15:32 GMT -5
Down at the Red Wing gardens today. The Wamneheza Spekcled flour corn is dried down. The Iroquois White is filling out it's ears. Looks great. No animal damage. Minimal lodging. Should be a good year for it.
Tom
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Post by oxbowfarm on Aug 20, 2011 17:53:40 GMT -5
How tall is it for you? What is your preferred spacing/ plant population? Do you do any intercropping like three sisters or anything?
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Post by darwinslair on Aug 21, 2011 9:23:13 GMT -5
The outside of the plot is surrounded by squash plants on one side and hidatsa red beans on the others. I am doing an increase of Abekanabe dry beans which I was told was a traditional bean to grow with them. I have those beans in my yard and have to admit, I am a bit hesitant about planting them with corn. They climbed, easily to well over 14'.
For the plot they are in, I have them planted, two seeds to a spot, 10" apart in rows spaced 36" apart. Plants themselves are about 10' tall.
Tom
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Post by darwinslair on Aug 21, 2011 9:32:00 GMT -5
I really do want to try the iroquois 3 sisters gardening method. It was not used locally by the mandan/hidatsa/arikara tribes. They did not interplant. Their corns are much shorter though.
Maybe next year <smile> Have been trying to find really suitable types for growing together.
Tom
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Post by oxbowfarm on Aug 21, 2011 16:57:09 GMT -5
I have really liked the cutshort style beans. The three varieties I have mixed and grown on the dent corn seem to climb well without overwhelming the corn at all. My mix is Brown Greasy Cutshort, Amish Gnuttle (Mayflower), and Red Sugar Cutshort. I use them as a dry bean even though I think Brown Greasy is originally a snap.
Don't really know if all cutshorts have the same growth style as these three.
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Post by darwinslair on Aug 21, 2011 23:21:16 GMT -5
Maybe next year is the year I try it again. Have held off since trying it with local heirloom corns that were just collapsed by it.
Mayflower. Had not thought of that one.
Tom
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Post by darwinslair on Aug 21, 2011 23:22:17 GMT -5
oh, took a photo of the Iroquois White Flour. It is on the blog, just show it in relation to Dakota Rainbow Flint to show ear size and shape. threedaughtersfarm.com/wp/Tom
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Post by llbelling on Sept 23, 2011 11:17:56 GMT -5
I have been growing Tuscarora corn for 4 years now here in Kentucky. I am a market gardener who is selling baked goods and ground corn flour; however, the general public just doesn't get why Tuscarora is so special. This corn flour makes the best baked goods you have ever tasted. I currently grow Tuscarora corn flour, Cherokee corn flour and Bloody Butcher flint for selling and baking. I can never go back to any type of "commercial" corn flour/meal. Growing "heirloom" grains is difficult and I lose most of my crop during summer storms; however, we are expanding next year so will try to increase spacing to see if this won't help.
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Post by 12540dumont on Sept 23, 2011 13:33:07 GMT -5
Llbelling, So do you have this year's crop in? Are you selling? Price per pound please. Tuscarora
Tom? Selling? Price per pound please. Iroquois.
Yes, I'm buying. If you're shy, PM me.
I'm also looking for Posole Corn and am willing to pay $1.50 a pound. I need 20 pounds. I'll pay for the shipping as well. Anyone? I'm looking for this year's crop. Thanks.
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Post by steev on Sept 23, 2011 21:13:54 GMT -5
llbelling, why do you lose due to storms? Lodging, molding, or what?
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Post by darwinslair on Sept 24, 2011 7:51:58 GMT -5
On Iroquois White: There is already a grower that wants to buy any seed I am willing to give up for $5 a pound or straight up trade for Mandan Speckled flour. Have to admit, I am loathe to give much of it up. If you are interested in simply doing a grow out of it (hand selected center cob kernels) I would trade or give you 400-500 kernels, but I am not a commercial grower. I grow this stuff because we eat it.
Tom
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Post by steev on Sept 24, 2011 11:28:03 GMT -5
No better reason to grow anything.
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Post by 12540dumont on Sept 24, 2011 13:21:17 GMT -5
Tom, Trade is good. As soon as I have all my corn seed shelled, I'll PM you with what I have.
I grow corn for my family and my CSA. The problem is when something happens, like pigs or weather and then I miss a whole crop. I hate buying to supplement.
Can you save me 400 Iroquois? Thanks, Holly
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