Post by canadamike on Oct 6, 2011 20:45:21 GMT -5
I am making a call here.
This last year, I have been exposed to a truth I need to share.
I now work for a small company that is, although not totally organic ( we would not survive, like most of the providers of organic products, we rely on the ''natural ecological'' growers, not certified).
I have seen with my own eyes what the founder of the company always said: iodine, a natural product, is the best bactericide and fungicide the world has ever seen. It has one flaw, nobody can copyright it.
Think of it, If you get operated in a hospital, you will come home with some brown around the cut..where they sliced you. Iodine kills ALL bacterias and germs ( polite way to say funguses and all).
It happens all the time all around the world when a surgical procedure is done.
In organic agriculture, it is recognized as a disinfectant. Not a fungicide. What is a desinfectant? A fungicide and bactericide.
Looks like something needed in a garden, doesn't it?
This summer. I have worked with commercial che,micals farmers a lot. Trying to convince them the other way...it is though to convince a guy who spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on poison to go for 50,000$ of iodine, believe me. Despite results. Fighting for the good way, the way that contradicts the usual way is though.
But to all of you not knowing or believing me, I will offer this french testimony, any darn translation program will give you the wordind...
A few months ago, I visited my friends, who are buddhist monks living from a small business, called ( I translate here from french) the hardy and patrimonial fruit tree nursery.
I left them with a liter of iodine because they had fungal problems...here is a copy and paste of the part of the message you could read, the rest is personnal :
''Oui on a essayé dans la serre et dans le champ. Ça a stoppé la maladie.',
TRANSLATION
It says: yes we tried it in the field and the greenhouse and it stopped the diseases.''
They asked for more of it.
The problem with iodine is the same than the one with neem oil: neem oil is used TOTALLY AND ABSOLUTELY for fungicides and insecticides reasons in organic agriculture, but is recognized in organic agriculture to ''add luster to leaves''. No'' fucking'' body uses it to add luster, canola oil can do that. But if you luster your leaves you also get rid of pests...how practical. NO COMPANY WANTS TO PAY FOR ITS FUNGIDE REGISTRATION BECAUSE IT WOULD PAY FOR THE OTHERS TO TAKE THE MARKETS TOO.
Our governments are to imbecile to create a system to share the cost of registration for a natural product. »No surprise here, the system is built for copyrighted stuff...not for the hard work of trialing something natural.
We would gladly pay for the ''recognition fee'' as would many sellers of neem oil, if it was not for opening the door to giants who would then kill us...this is how hypocrisy goes in the field when money is a matter of survival..at least for the small players like us.
Iodine is a natural element and impossible to copyright. Great flaw in todays world...how many of the apple growers you know are recommanded sulfur against funguses by agronomists???...How many even know about it, despite its efficiency? NO money to be made from it but for some small niche companies with a dream.
Iodine is recognized and accepted in organic agriculture as a disinfectant. What the heck does a disinfectant do but kiiling ''GERMS'' meaning fungis and bacterias...which it does beautifully in hospitals around the world. Good enough to keep you alive in adversity, with all the bad stuff to breathe in an hospital, but not an apple....go figure...
So, I recommend to you to organic people to do like the neem users in Canada, use Iodine for ''disinfection purposes''
And get rid of ALL fungal problems that are above the soil, meaning in the leaves...
We are working on solutions for soil funguses..the problem is to touch them.Iodine is a contact germicide. Bring iodine to the problem.Every atom kills 750 millions bacterias I was told...I do not know if it is totally true but sure have seen loads of efficiency.When I say soil..all funguses survive in the soil, but it is very easy to stop them with iodine, not in the soil part of their life. Iodine in the soil is alive for about 45 seconds, then it becomes chelated and is a micronutrient,,,the easy solution is drenching like hell...but it is expensive...
Lets try it my friends and create a movement for the best known to man fungicide and bactericide...that happens to be the cheapest too...way way cheaper...and not killing us, the maximum dose for fungus eradication could be used for sore throat problems....
This last year, I have been exposed to a truth I need to share.
I now work for a small company that is, although not totally organic ( we would not survive, like most of the providers of organic products, we rely on the ''natural ecological'' growers, not certified).
I have seen with my own eyes what the founder of the company always said: iodine, a natural product, is the best bactericide and fungicide the world has ever seen. It has one flaw, nobody can copyright it.
Think of it, If you get operated in a hospital, you will come home with some brown around the cut..where they sliced you. Iodine kills ALL bacterias and germs ( polite way to say funguses and all).
It happens all the time all around the world when a surgical procedure is done.
In organic agriculture, it is recognized as a disinfectant. Not a fungicide. What is a desinfectant? A fungicide and bactericide.
Looks like something needed in a garden, doesn't it?
This summer. I have worked with commercial che,micals farmers a lot. Trying to convince them the other way...it is though to convince a guy who spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on poison to go for 50,000$ of iodine, believe me. Despite results. Fighting for the good way, the way that contradicts the usual way is though.
But to all of you not knowing or believing me, I will offer this french testimony, any darn translation program will give you the wordind...
A few months ago, I visited my friends, who are buddhist monks living from a small business, called ( I translate here from french) the hardy and patrimonial fruit tree nursery.
I left them with a liter of iodine because they had fungal problems...here is a copy and paste of the part of the message you could read, the rest is personnal :
''Oui on a essayé dans la serre et dans le champ. Ça a stoppé la maladie.',
TRANSLATION
It says: yes we tried it in the field and the greenhouse and it stopped the diseases.''
They asked for more of it.
The problem with iodine is the same than the one with neem oil: neem oil is used TOTALLY AND ABSOLUTELY for fungicides and insecticides reasons in organic agriculture, but is recognized in organic agriculture to ''add luster to leaves''. No'' fucking'' body uses it to add luster, canola oil can do that. But if you luster your leaves you also get rid of pests...how practical. NO COMPANY WANTS TO PAY FOR ITS FUNGIDE REGISTRATION BECAUSE IT WOULD PAY FOR THE OTHERS TO TAKE THE MARKETS TOO.
Our governments are to imbecile to create a system to share the cost of registration for a natural product. »No surprise here, the system is built for copyrighted stuff...not for the hard work of trialing something natural.
We would gladly pay for the ''recognition fee'' as would many sellers of neem oil, if it was not for opening the door to giants who would then kill us...this is how hypocrisy goes in the field when money is a matter of survival..at least for the small players like us.
Iodine is a natural element and impossible to copyright. Great flaw in todays world...how many of the apple growers you know are recommanded sulfur against funguses by agronomists???...How many even know about it, despite its efficiency? NO money to be made from it but for some small niche companies with a dream.
Iodine is recognized and accepted in organic agriculture as a disinfectant. What the heck does a disinfectant do but kiiling ''GERMS'' meaning fungis and bacterias...which it does beautifully in hospitals around the world. Good enough to keep you alive in adversity, with all the bad stuff to breathe in an hospital, but not an apple....go figure...
So, I recommend to you to organic people to do like the neem users in Canada, use Iodine for ''disinfection purposes''
And get rid of ALL fungal problems that are above the soil, meaning in the leaves...
We are working on solutions for soil funguses..the problem is to touch them.Iodine is a contact germicide. Bring iodine to the problem.Every atom kills 750 millions bacterias I was told...I do not know if it is totally true but sure have seen loads of efficiency.When I say soil..all funguses survive in the soil, but it is very easy to stop them with iodine, not in the soil part of their life. Iodine in the soil is alive for about 45 seconds, then it becomes chelated and is a micronutrient,,,the easy solution is drenching like hell...but it is expensive...
Lets try it my friends and create a movement for the best known to man fungicide and bactericide...that happens to be the cheapest too...way way cheaper...and not killing us, the maximum dose for fungus eradication could be used for sore throat problems....