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Post by blackox on Feb 18, 2014 19:15:43 GMT -5
I think that a black, pearl type popcorn with the Glass Gem shininess would look quite nice. Maybe with a few white kernels thrown in there.
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Post by nathanp on Feb 19, 2014 0:02:34 GMT -5
Black Gem - that would be very neat looking
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Post by gray on Mar 10, 2014 17:09:34 GMT -5
I have been reading Carol Deppes book The Resilient Gardener. In her chapter on corn she talks about having eaten parched corn at Alan Kapulars house and liking some of it. So she went home and tested all kinds and found out that the best and sweetest corns for parching are all flour corn.
Now as I understand parching is in a hot cast iron skillet or the microwave which I dont do. So I am going to try Glass Gem in skillet.
My question is what is the value of no oil parching? Just not having to use oil? When I pop Glass Gem in oil like popcorn I get what sounds like the same thing from my unpoped as Carol gets with parching. I think Glass Gem is considered a flint corn. Is not using oil the value gained with flour corn? Or is there flour corn kernels in Glass Gem?
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Mar 10, 2014 17:28:34 GMT -5
As far as I'm concerned. The best parching corn is sugary enhanced sweet corn. The next best parching corn is any other sweet corn. Astronomy Domine is what I parch most often. I've tried parching flour corns, and dent corns, and flint corns, and parching corns. I'm unimpressed.
And anything that I parch or pop is going to have oil added. If I'm going to the trouble of cooking something I might as well add enough oil, salt, and herbs for it to taste palatable.
I'd expect glass gem to be about as unsuitable as a parching corn as it is possible to get.
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Post by gray on Mar 11, 2014 17:42:23 GMT -5
Joesph, Thanks for the input. Have you popped Glass Gem? I have nothing to reference to as I have only popped GG and eaten the old maids, which we find delicious. What do I know with no reference. I think the GG flour is really good also. Holly sent me some red floriani to grow this year so I will have something to compare.
I am also going to do a grow out with your AD so I will also try that for parching.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Mar 11, 2014 19:17:27 GMT -5
Have you popped Glass Gem? A glass gem granny is about the worst parched corn I have encountered...
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Post by gray on Mar 12, 2014 17:57:54 GMT -5
Cant wait to taste those AD parched nuggets!!!
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Post by kevin8715 on Oct 8, 2014 0:42:05 GMT -5
Joseph Lofthouse How did you sort the glass gem kernels to the most likely for popping abitiliy? Gray sent me quite a bit a couple of months ago and plan to grow out the corn next year but don't have ebough space for all the seed. Probably will get popcorn seed next year from you to avoid inbreeding depression in my undersized corn patches.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Oct 8, 2014 10:46:47 GMT -5
Joseph Lofthouse How did you sort the glass gem kernels to the most likely for popping abitiliy? Gray sent me quite a bit a couple of months ago and plan to grow out the corn next year but don't have ebough space for all the seed. Probably will get popcorn seed next year from you to avoid inbreeding depression in my undersized corn patches. My usual selection process for any crop is "recurrent mass selection". For popcorn that would mean harvesting the crop. Drying to suitable moisture content. Then taking 20 kernels from each cob and popping them in hot oil. Count the number of kernels that pop and write it on the cob. After each cob has a score, replant only the highest scoring cobs. I presume that the seeds you got are not on the cob... So I can be even more selective, and choose individual kernels to grow from the highest scoring cobs. Details about how I do that are in the " My Popcorn" thread. Basically, select for mid-sized pearl-shaped glassy kernels without cracks that contain an imperceptible germ. The best popping kernels look like the one on the right.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Jan 13, 2015 12:15:48 GMT -5
This fall I attended the Rocky Mountain Seed Alliance's Seed School. While there we picked a truck load of Glass Gem Corn. Bill McDorman and I really enjoyed each other's company... Bill introduced Glass Gem Corn to the world. I had seed to sell before he did. We talked for hours about the corn. Rocky Mountain Seed Alliance
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Post by gray on Feb 10, 2015 17:47:51 GMT -5
Joseph, would love to hear some of those glass gem stories. I would disagree with the statement that Bill introduced glass gem to the world. I think you and I did. We got more seed in people hands before he did.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Feb 10, 2015 18:46:54 GMT -5
gray: Ha! I suppose that I agree. Bill shared the photo that turned Glass Gem into a sensation. We shared the seed. Bill told me that the benefit I received from the mania "couldn't have happened to a better man." I felt like I had been blessed by a shaman. Bill had many many photos of Glass Gem corn to choose among. One of the photos just popped out of the monitor with bright glorious colors. So that's the photo that got posted for Glass Gem... But the problem is, that it doesn't represent the full range of colors and shapes available in the Glass Gem genepool. So his dilemma is whether to select towards plants that are like "That photo", or to maintain more of the original diversity which is not as brilliantly colored nor as glassy. We made and ate Glass Gem tortillas. Bill provided seed to a farmer last spring to plant an acre of Glass Gem corn, so there should be an abundance of seed from here on out. I had free reign of the patch this fall, and sorted through the cobs to find the few that I thought would make great popping corn. Bill has suggested a name for it already.
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Post by steev on Feb 10, 2015 20:06:50 GMT -5
I note that all the more mature members of the party are on one side, while all the less seasoned are on the other; one wonders what the dynamics of that segregation were.
Whatever, I hope to plant that "frosty" Glass Gem you sent me this year, in hopes of a corn season that isn't a total bust like last year.
This is shaping up to be the warmest Winter I've seen on the farm, virtually no frost at all; I'm actually toying with the idea of corn planted in April or even March! I thought I was pushing my luck to plant in May, last year; that wasn't why the corn sucked, I'm sure.
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Post by DarJones on Feb 11, 2015 12:45:36 GMT -5
The Freudeuclidifucian didactic says there is controversy within.
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Post by gray on Feb 15, 2015 17:43:29 GMT -5
Joesph how were the glass gem tortillas? I know you said you didnt like the grannies. We love cornbread made with it. Havent done tortillas yet. Maybe this fall.
I have more than enough to plant an acre. A large no till local farmer may do a large growout this year, maybe acre, I have been telling him about it in hopes of talking him into putting in the plot in his sunniest, moistest area. We will see. Never the less I plan on doing my largest grow yet this year as I didnt do much with the corn last year.
Looks like a great time yall had at the seed alliance school, did you get anything unique?
And the name of the popcorn?
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