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Post by castanea on Apr 20, 2012 22:30:16 GMT -5
They must really love bees! Or maybe not... "Monsanto, the massive biotechnology company being blamed for contributing to the dwindling bee population, has bought up one of the leading bee collapse research organizations. Recently banned from Poland with one of the primary reasons being that the company’s genetically modified corn may be devastating the dying bee population, it is evident that Monsanto is under serious fire for their role in the downfall of the vital insects. It is therefore quite apparent why Monsanto bought one of the largest bee research firms on the planet." Read more: naturalsociety.com/monsanto-bee-collapse-buys-bee-research-firm/#ixzz1sdsA7thQ
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Post by mnjrutherford on Apr 21, 2012 9:45:51 GMT -5
|This genre of news used to make me scared. The fear then turned to anger and resentment.
One day, it occurred to me, "What do I have to fear? After all, I can support myself in a whole lot of ways. What I can't do my husband can. We are training our sons in different areas so they can also support themselves and their families."
These guys are not capable of doing anything that can total out the entire population. Just most of it. When that happens, the land is ours and so is everything that is on it. Both the good and the bad. True enough, the bad will be hideously horrible, but I guarantee you that the strong and capable will survive and be FAR better off.
Bring it on. I have no problem watching wall street die, garotted with their piano wires. I just feel a bit of sympathy for their children.
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Post by bertiefox on Apr 21, 2012 11:07:46 GMT -5
Time somebody opened up a few dozen hives of angry Africanized bees in Monsanto's HQ! Of course they are doing this so they can suppress the research they don't like, anything critical of their products. What next? Major multinational chemical companies buying up cancer research institutes so they can suppress any research which shows certain chemicals are carcinogenic or mutagenic?
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Post by 12540dumont on Apr 21, 2012 12:21:57 GMT -5
Well maybee someone who works at Monsanto will beecome a whistle blower.
Maybee as citizens well decide that corporations are not people and have no rights.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Apr 21, 2012 12:41:40 GMT -5
I just want them to self-exterminate asap so we can get on with real life.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Apr 22, 2012 9:15:31 GMT -5
Monsanto is led by one thing and one thing only. Money. They can PROBABLY say, with a degree of honesty, that they want the bees to survive and thrive. BUT, when a hard decision comes up, they will side with cash flow EVERY time.
Simply the nature of the beast.
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Post by castanea on Apr 22, 2012 11:08:37 GMT -5
My original point is that this likely shows that Monsanto is concerned about the decline of bee populations. In most situations I would tend to take the approach that people have good intentions. In the case of Monsanto, based on years of lying about everything they do and of producing an endless number of highly toxic products, I feel very comfortable assuming that their intentions in this situation are purely evil.
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Post by raymondo on Apr 23, 2012 2:12:23 GMT -5
I fear that Monsanto have not, to date, done much to give one faith in their good intentions. This may be a turning point, but the company's past makes that unlikely, possible of course, but unlikely.
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Post by steev on Apr 23, 2012 10:44:18 GMT -5
When the scorpion talks you into carrying it across the river, don't forget that it's a scorpion.
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Post by blueadzuki on Apr 23, 2012 15:37:25 GMT -5
When the scorpion talks you into carrying it across the river, don't forget that it's a scorpion. I'm not sure that is the right Aesop fable for this situation, that one seems to absolve them too much (it's their nature to be as they are, so we really can't blame them). In My opinion a better match would be the one of the Woodcutter and the Snake.
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Post by steev on Apr 23, 2012 22:27:04 GMT -5
I don't know that I implied any lack of blame implicit in being a toxic organism, not that I have any ill-will toward real scorpions, which are children of our Great Mother Earth no less than any of us. Toxic artificial constructs such as multinational corporations are another matter altogether.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Apr 24, 2012 3:30:46 GMT -5
Scorpion or snake, both have negative and positive aspects. Of course, so does poop.
I have to say that monsanto is more easily comparable to horse nettle. Completely useless and out do cause as much pain as possible every time you even think of removing it.
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Post by bertiefox on Apr 24, 2012 5:30:29 GMT -5
If Monsanto really does have good intentions, even only for its own survival and profit, then why has it suppressed information about its existing products harming bees and sought to deny that their products are harmful? Something is very wrong here, and anybody who has campaigned against large industries and organisations will be aware of the dirty tricks they employ. We once were threatened with court action for libel for simply pointing out that the emissions from a cement works burning toxic waste were harming public health. Luckily we ignored them and they backed down.
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Post by blueadzuki on Apr 24, 2012 7:18:23 GMT -5
I don't know that I implied any lack of blame implicit in being a toxic organism, not that I have any ill-will toward real scorpions, which are children of our Great Mother Earth no less than any of us. Toxic artificial constructs such as multinational corporations are another matter altogether. I was quoting the fable, not the animal. The moral of Aesop's fable of the frog and the scorpion is something along the line of "You cannot expect anyone to go aganist thier nature, even when it is in their best interest" the moral of the fable of the snake and the woodcutter is "expect no gratitude from the wicked". difference of opinion
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