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Post by mountaindweller on Jun 17, 2016 3:12:55 GMT -5
Stupid question: is this allowed in Australia? Poppy seed cakes are delicious! Never tried to grow poppies because I am afraid of that beeing illegal. mountainherbs.net/
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Post by steev on Jun 17, 2016 10:38:20 GMT -5
Might be like the USA, where growing is legal, but tapping sap is not; it seems that South-East Asian immigrants habituated to a bit of opium have resorted to making "tea" from the pods.
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Post by mskrieger on Jun 17, 2016 14:18:27 GMT -5
Poppy seed cakes are delicious indeed! Just had poppyseed strudel from a Hungarian baker last night for my dad's birthday. It was delicious. I'm hoping I'll get enough from my little plantation here to bake it myself...but if I can't, I noticed the Hungarian bakery/deli had big bags of poppyseed in the refrigerator for sale. Might be worth seeking out some Central European folks in your area, mountaindweller .
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Post by templeton on Jun 17, 2016 18:25:05 GMT -5
Stupid question: is this allowed in Australia? Poppy seed cakes are delicious! Never tried to grow poppies because I am afraid of that beeing illegal. mountainherbs.net/NSW Drug Misuse and Trafficking Act 1985 No 226 prohibited plant means: (a) cannabis plant, (b) any growing plant of the genus Erythroxylon or of the species Papaver Somniferum or Papaver orientale, also known as Papaver bracteatum, Trafficable quantity = 30 grams Parliament of Victoria Research paper on Drugs, Poisons and Controlled Substances (Poppy Cultivation and Processing) Amendment Bill 2013 The opium poppy industry is regulated under international, commonwealth and state law. As a signatory to the United Nations Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs 1961 as amended by the 1972 Protocol Amending the Single Convention, Australia is required to control and supervise the growing and production of opium poppies and the import and export of narcotic material.[footnote 33] So it looks like it's illegal under under international, national and state laws - triple whammy. But I've seen it grown in Open Gardens - where folks open gardens to the public - I don't think there are many prosecutions for flower gardening. T
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Post by mountaindweller on Jun 18, 2016 21:04:58 GMT -5
Thanks! I hope but not believe that they get a little bit more sensible about growing plants! mountainherbs.net/
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Post by mskrieger on Jun 21, 2016 18:06:01 GMT -5
OK, folks. My poppies began blooming this week, rather spectacularly. And a rather showy mutant revealed itself this morning. Magenta and frilly, unlike the smooth, pale pink flowers with dusky gray-purple throats that adorn the others. Upon closer inspection, I noticed it had three flower buds, too--most of the poppies have just one, no matter how big the plant. (A few have two.)
Now, three pods on the same plant probably means three smaller pods...but they might end up containing more seeds than a single large one. And it's a very dramatic flower. If the pods end up have sealed vents like the rest of my crop, would anyone like seeds? Let me know.
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Post by mskrieger on Jun 23, 2016 7:05:26 GMT -5
Two more bloomed today, one with smooth purple-red petals and dark throat, another cardinal red, frilly, with a white throat. Starting to suspect the mutant isn't really a mutant, but rather some rogue seed from John Scheeper's Kitchen garden. It's possible either I or the kids planted it this spring in a fit of genetic diversity-inspired idiocy. I've had it laying around for years, labeled 'Pepperbox Breadseed Poppy'. Scheepers is a very reputable Dutch bulb supplier based locally but I've learned their garden seed business is untrustworthy.
The poppies are very pretty but I'm wondering if I should rip them out before they spread around their (likely open-vented) genes.
Advice? How easily do poppies cross?
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Post by templeton on Jun 24, 2016 0:13:21 GMT -5
I think they cross easily, within species. They get a lot of bee attention. That cardinal red frilly with white throat sounds attractive. T
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Post by mskrieger on Jun 28, 2016 12:10:32 GMT -5
Well, I went on vacation without ripping out the frilly poppies, so any genetic purity concerns are moot at this point. The pods of all the poppies keep growing. The earliest blooming Elka/Ziar now have pods at least an inch in diameter. It looks like I may get quite a lot of seed. templeton, should I mark the frilly red ones with the white throats for you? They are very nice. Will likely be crossed some with the Elka/Ziar breadseed, but I'm not sure how much. My butterfly weed and purple coneflowers have come into bloom at the same time and are much more attractive to pollinators than the poppies.
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Post by templeton on Jun 30, 2016 23:54:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the offer mskrieger, but I don't want a visit from border security - the uniforms are too scary T
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Post by mskrieger on Jul 5, 2016 10:36:59 GMT -5
Ah yes, I forgot...the border control uniforms are ugly everywhere.
I once had an ongoing relationship with the Fish&Wildlife control officer at the New York State/Quebec Champlain border crossing, due to a pet boa constrictor with an inconvenient endangered species status and my tendency to move between Montreal and Connecticut rather frequently. Nice guy, terrible outfit.
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Post by stone on Nov 3, 2016 15:37:27 GMT -5
Well, I went on vacation without ripping out the frilly poppies, so any genetic purity concerns are moot at this point. "frilly red ones with the white throats" Are you talking about 'Danish Flag' poppies? Personally, I want lots of colours.... I started out with typical breadseed poppies and some of the double pinks that are common around here... after 25 years or so... I've been getting some really nice colours.... gardens-in-the-sand.blogspot.com/2015/05/poppies.htmlIt's time to sow your collected seed! I hope that you will post some pictures of the crosses...
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Post by imgrimmer on Nov 3, 2016 16:25:18 GMT -5
stone amazing colours! I have a red breadseed poppy selected by an aunt of my wife. great work!
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Nov 3, 2016 22:05:25 GMT -5
while we are on this topic i want to know if the standard red perennial flower bed poppies can be used in muffins and baking. I've heard that you can't. But is there an actual reason like poison or something, or is it because of cultural norms and tradition since they are not "bred" for that specifically? I have a sneaking suspicion they will work fine. I have a hankering to use them in my own poppy-seed muffins.
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Post by templeton on Nov 4, 2016 0:53:32 GMT -5
Keen i think the perrenials are a different sp.
I've been growing a big double pink for ages, got some multi-colour singles a few years ag o and tried them - colourful, but not spectacular. They all just self seed, and this year, I've got some big double frilly reds - success. Now will work on getting a few more colous with double frilly trait.
I'll post pics from home. T
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