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Post by littleminnie on Jan 2, 2013 21:48:46 GMT -5
This year I am doing a low tunnel over some tomatoes and peppers in early spring and then planting the rest out with some lighter protection. These will be 48-50 plants. Planted in a single row 3 feet apart- 150 feet long across the top of the garden. Then in mid to late June I will be planting some more plants for a fall low tunnel. About 28 determinate plants. These will be in a double row 2 feet apart.
Cherries: sungold 2 Sweet Treats 2 Matt's Wild 2? Unknown free trial 1 My 'tree' cross 2
pastes: Trifele 2 late San Marzano 4 late Amish paste 3 Cow's tit 1 Jersey Giant 2 Opalka 1 Polish Linguisa 1 Principe 2 late
other: Stupice 2 early 5 late Chinese Brown 2 early 2 late Marglobe Select 1 early 8 late Bush Goliath 5 late Eva Purple Ball 2 Aunt Ginny 1 Northern Lights 2 Brandywine Red 2 Brandywine OTV 1 Caspian pink 2 JD's 3 KBX 2 Mc Clintock's 4 Persimmon 2 Azoychka 1-2 Paul Robeson 1-2 Hillbilly? Nature's Riddle?
I will be starting some others for sale as plants that I will not grow myself. I also usually do some pots but haven't decided which to do yet.
I still need Eva Purple Ball, KBX, and Northern Lights seeds for sure.
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Post by Drahkk on Jan 2, 2013 22:50:16 GMT -5
I've got a lot more space now that I'm taking on Mr. Prince's plot in addition to my raised beds, but most of you will still make me look extremely small time. Anyway, here's my anticipated list for 2013. Subject to change of course, but Feb 1 is my day for starting tomatoes and peppers, so plans will be finalized soon:
Cherries: Sungold (2) Supersweet 100 (2) (After last year's failure, Rhonda is insisting on these)
Paste Piennolo del Vesuvio (8?) (Thanks, Dar) San Marzano (4) San Marzano Gigante 3 (4) Goldman's (4)
Slicer Black Krim (4) KC 135 (4) (Thanks, Oxbow) Campbell's Soup 54 (4) (Thanks, Oxbow)
Other Red Bullet (LISP) (at least 4)
As an interesting side note, I stated before that I have to provide partial shade to get tomatoes to fruit during the summer. As it turns out, Mr. Prince had been doing that for years by growing them in the shade of his peaches, which is exactly where I plan on putting most of mine this year. MB
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Post by steev on Jan 3, 2013 0:51:53 GMT -5
Shade is what trees are for (aside from what they may fruit), which is why I have East-West rows of trees and East-West planting lanes between them. I think I've finally figured out that my peppers need shade from corn or pole beans to not be sunburned. The sun is VERY intense on the farm, the air being (thankfully) very clean.
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Post by ferdzy on Jan 3, 2013 11:07:03 GMT -5
Subject to change right up until they go in the ground and even then the cutworms have something to say on the subject, but here's what it looks like at the moment:
SunSugar growout F5: Edwin's been working on these, and I think we can say "Success!" Ildi: my favourite cherry. Black Cherry:Edwins fave cherry. Lugas (Hungarian): larger than a cherry, but our red "cherry" to try this year. New to us.
Jaune Flammé: a favourite salad tomato around here Rouge Flammé (experimental): one of my Jaune Flammés was crossed last year, and for once I really liked the results. I've saved the seed, but who knows what I will get this year.
Persimmon: a favourite for flavour, beautiful colour, starts early for its size, last one to give it up in the fall, highly productive, dense enough to cook when we can't keep up with them raw... a winner! Pineapple: another flavour I really like, although not so productive. Great White: Said to be the best of the "whites". We like it, and productivity is very decent. Paul Robeson: In some years this has been our favourite tomato hands down, in other years it has been just pleasant. (In one year it was plainly crossed, and was not good.) My feeling is either it has a certain amount of natural variation, or else it crosses easily, or both. We need to start saving the seed of particularly good ones. Franchi Red Pear: First time growing, got the seed from a friend. We like the ones we tried eating last year. Good for eating fresh and cooking. Pink Brandywine: Sent to us by Bearsmom, (I think! Yikes, what a memory. Apologies if I'm wrong.) Looking forward to giving it a try.
K.C. 135: from Oxbow, trying on his recommendation for a good canner for us. Campbell 54: also from Oxbow, same. Amish Paste OR Opalka: We generally grow at least one of these two, reasonably productive, tolerant and healthy plants, good flavour. Federle: Not generally as productive because it prefers cooler weather to hot. But we plant it as insurance in case we have a cool summer - in which case the others drop in productivity and this one goes up. Speckled Roman: Another good productive canning tomato with good flavour. Santa Clara Canner: don't actually have the seed for this - we are hoping to score some. (Hi Holly!) We bought seed locally last year and it turned out to be crossed, with the resulting tomatoes small, watery, seedy, bland etc. Ho hum. Comes so highly recommended that we want to try again though.
No doubt there will be a few other tomatoes going into the garden, but at this point the list of available slots is a lot shorter than the list of tomatoes of interest. We'll be going to Turkey in March and we will, of course, spend a ridiculous amount of time scavenging for seeds.
As you can probably tell, nothing I like better than a plate covered with multi-colour tomato slices, a loaf of bread and a jar of mayo...
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Post by oxbowfarm on Jan 3, 2013 11:16:48 GMT -5
The major change we are making this year is the timing of our tomatoes and one major variety gamble. It's become clear from our sales records that there is very little point to trying to hold the tomatoes inside the hoophouses late into the season, quality goes down and disease goes up. But the biggest factor is that people are clearly sick of tomatoes in the fall and won't really buy them the way they will for off-season tomatoes in late-spring/early summer. So we are going to try and get in a super early crop of determinate/parthenocarpic Siletz and shoot for tomatoes in June. We also plan on ripping them out of the houses much sooner in the fall and moving the houses over late fall greens.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Jan 3, 2013 11:48:04 GMT -5
OxbowFarm: I concur. The opening day of market people are asking for tomatoes, but when the tomato crop finally gets here, I can't sell tomatoes: There are just too many of them at market, and since I have one of the coldest gardens of anyone that sells at market, I am always last-to-market with tomatoes.
I know one fellow with a colder garden than mine. He takes garlic to market. Long after everyone else has ran out of garlic, he is harvesting fresh garlic. Very nice.... I just can't get excited about taking greens to market.
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Post by raymondo on Jan 3, 2013 15:19:45 GMT -5
Ferdzy, good to hear that Speckled Roman is a good canner. I've got a couple of plants in this season to try out.
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Post by paquebot on Jan 3, 2013 23:21:11 GMT -5
The two Campbell's are good ones. There's another in that group along with 54 and 135 and that's 146. All 3 were developed using Wisconsin 55. 135 may actually be better than WI55 in some ways but 146 is more resistant to certain diseases and possibly better for the South. So far, I've got 19, 22, 24, 28, 31, 37, 119, 222, and 1138 penciled in for 2013. All good workhorse field varieties.
Martin
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Post by ferdzy on Jan 4, 2013 12:04:58 GMT -5
Raymondo, I think you will like them!
Martin, since I am in the north I probably have the best 2 of those 3 for me. A good workhorse tomato is exactly what we are looking for. We really liked Bellestar for the first couple years but then we got septoria spot and they are just too small as plants to stand up to it.
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Post by 12540dumont on Jan 5, 2013 20:30:50 GMT -5
Ferdzy, save some room for a tomato I'm sending you....Edwin will like it.
I'm having a green house crisis. My sprout house is dead and I have to rig something up within 10 days so that I can start tomatoes and peppers.
I haven't even started sending out seeds yet, and it's time to start them again. Yikes!
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Post by littleminnie on Jan 5, 2013 21:47:20 GMT -5
That Piennolo is the neatest, cutest looking thing.
For my area, so many people grow tomatoes themselves that they are poor sellers at market. I have a few customers who come for my heirlooms specifically but most of the toms go to the CSAs and they usually get too many. I am cutting back on my numbers but lengthening the season.
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Post by YoungAllotmenteer on Jan 6, 2013 10:38:22 GMT -5
I plan to grow the following, this follows on from my 'Early, Bush Paste Tomato' thread (Thank you to Adamus for the first 3!). Palmwoods Scattalone San Marzano Ropreco Czechs Bush I'm unsure how many I will grow at the moment, probably I will sow 1/2 a tray of each (12), keep 5 and sell the rest of the plants to other allotment holders. I may add more varieties, it's still early *Czechs Bush added
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Post by 12540dumont on Jan 6, 2013 15:03:21 GMT -5
Minnie, I'm with you. Tomatoes in May are great, as are tomatoes in November. In August I can barely give them away, everyone has them.
Not one person complained about too many melons.
I'm working on some Dar tomatoes this year, but I'm only putting in 100 ft.
I have found that my folks would love to have fruit every single week. Strawberries, blueberries, grapes, etc.
Rhubarb is very popular (too bad I only have it for 2 weeks).
I'm thinking about currants and elderberries.
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Post by 12540dumont on Jan 22, 2013 12:01:01 GMT -5
Big Sungold Select, Medovaya Kaplya, small gold, Moravsky Div, small red Grappiolo d’ Inverno (Cherry) Piennolo del VesuvioGreen Giant S.D.’s Special C - Tex Atkinson Anna Russian Strawberry Margaritta 1884 Pink Sweet Beverly Me Tarzan Grex Selected this year for teardrop Santa Ana picardyGoose Creek KBX -Orange Costoluto Genovese Druyba Gather’s Gold Rose de Berne Joe Pesch Pink (not paste) Stocky Red Rooster Cherokee Jumbo R.G. Bold Green Crankovic Yugoslavian Perth Pride Black Black Krim-bfst Dr. Carolyn Pink Yoder’s German Yellow Red Zebra Brandywine Sudduth R.G. Bold Red cherokee purple Purple Calabash San Marzano Bernardini Tappy’s Heritage Kosovo Stump of the WorldLucky CrossBlack Krim Cherry Red Mortgage Lifter Lynnwoood Nepal Daniels Bear Creek Polish C Da appendereGrandma Aiello’s Pink Red Kilo Della Garfagnana Jean's Prize Joseph's Earliest Tomato Okay, so these are the tomatoes I have. Oxbow is sending me another canner. So, many of these tomatoes I don't know very much about. The ones in Italic are the ones I MUST plant. Obviously, I have more than I can plant. I'm only doing one row of tomatoes this year, otherwise they don't get picked. Dar, or other tomato fans, I need 5 more from this list. No more cherries, what do you think? Which ones? Attachments:
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Post by ferdzy on Jan 22, 2013 16:42:02 GMT -5
Holly, the only one on that list that I've tried is S.D.'s Special C Tex. It did not do well for us. We didn't like the flavour, and such small portions! Maybe it doesn't like our climate, but given how highly recommended it came we were disappointed. Actually, when I think about it I think we grew San Marzano at one point, and also thought, ho-hum. Just to complicate matters, I don't think we have typical taste in tomatoes... but away from it's famous volcanic soil it seemed like just another tomato to us.
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