This year I am only sure to grow a wild tomato collected in the coastal desert of Peru, LA 0722, and Ailsa Craig, an "English breakfast tomato". Does anyone know what an "English breakfast tomato' is? All I know is that it is suposed to be very high quality, but not at all adapted to Kansas. But it is segregating for a male sterile gene marked by brown seeds. I'll be trying to cross the male sterile plants with LA 0722 to give very heat, cold, and drought tolerant cherry tomatoes. I did this 30 years ago in Africa, with excellent results. I did it again when I returned to the states, but I let the strain die out. Very careless of me.
Post by 12540dumont on Jan 24, 2013 14:49:48 GMT -5
Thank you Dar. xxoh
Walt Seed, An English Breakfast Tomato is a tomato served at breakfast. Traditionally slow roasted in the oven with a little oil, salt and thyme. It is served with Black pudding, bacon, sausages, fried eggs, beans, fresh sauteed button mushrooms, (and toast on the side so it doesn't wallow in the beans). Serve with a large mug of rust colored tannic tea and Heinz Ketchup on the side.
And the best place I have ever had a great English breakfast....the Banff Springs Hotel on Boxing Day! The worst? London....icky canned mushrooms, and a nasty little poached egg...I can't even think of the rest without shivering.
This is what I'm planting: Heinz 54 from Oxbow Piennolo del Vesuvio Picardy KBX Lynnwood Grappiolo d' Invierno Dr. Carolyn Pink Daniels Bear Creek Me Tarzan Cherry - Yeah Lieven, I'm replanting Lieven's Teardrop Sweet Beverly Lucky Cross Stump of the World da Apprendere
That's 14 tomatoes (2 of each). And no not one more.
Dar, I have plenty of room for peppers!
The trouble with peppers and tomatoes and potatoes and eggplant is that they are all in the same darn family and take up about 1/4 of the farm. I'm running out of rotation!
OK, I've spent the last two hours writing names on cups. I'll be filling and planting these tonight, as it's 7 weeks from my usual plant out day (April 1). Some will be 1 seed per cup due to small sample size, and I'm intentionally starting more than I need so I can share some others. So I don't expect all of these to make it into the ground, but here's what I'm starting for this year:
Piennolo del Vesuvio - 13 (Thanks, Dar!) San Marzano - 12 Black Krim - 4 Kellogg's Breakfast - 4 Campbell 54 - 6 (Thanks, Ox!) K.C. 135 - 6 (Thanks, Ox!) K.C. 135 x Campbell 54 F1 - 6 (Thanks, Ox!) Campbell 54 x Cosmonaut Volkov F1 - 6 (Thanks, Ox!) Dalmatiner - 6 (Thanks, Wiz!) Domaca Pfarrgarten - 6 (Thanks, Wiz!) Amerikanac - 6 (Thanks, Wiz!) Jabucar Novosadski- 6 (Thanks, Wiz!) Old tomato from Strumica, Macedonia - 6 (Thanks, Wiz!) Sungold F1 (want to try for myself) - 4 Supersweet 100 F1 (not my favorite, but Rhonda insists) - 4 Yellow Pear (my neighbors love them) - 4
Blushing Beauty F1 - 6 Guzvara - 6 (Thanks, Wiz!) Botinecka Zuta - 6 (Thanks, Wiz!) Soroksari - 6 (Thanks, Wiz!) Slonovo Uvo - 6 (Thanks, Wiz!) Fefferoni - 6 (Thanks, Wiz!) Unidentified Serbian hot pepper - 6 (Thanks, Wiz!) Jalapeno 'Pizza Pepper' - 6 Mariachi F3 Unidentified sweet cross I'm trying to stabilize - 20 (4 from each of 5 mother plants)
I know this is still small time compared to many of you, but it's over 8 times what I usually do. Wish me luck!
My 2013 Tomato Grow List (With a big THANK YOU to everyone who's traded/sent me seeds this year.) Ignore the symbols after the variety names (FY,M etc.) they designate which bed they'll be planted in. Also some of Tom Wagners segregating stuff is still in the OP list, I just havn't moved it down yet.
[Heirloom/OP] 97L97 M Abraca Zebra BYM African Queen GL Aladin's Lamp M Amazing Grace BYM Amazon Chocolate GL Ananas Noir GL Andy Buckflats Wonder GL Ararat Flame BYM Ardwyna BYM At Dawn GL Basinga BYM Beauty Queen GL Beaverlodge Slicer GL Berkeley Tie Dye Heart BYM Bianca Grande GL Big Cheef BYM Big Cheef Stripes BYM Big Orange Stripe GL Big Orange from Amuz GL Big Rainbow GL Black Brandywine RL M Black Krim M Bosque Green Cherry Brandywine OTV M Brazilian Beauty BYM Brianna BYM Brutus Magnum GL Bubble Gum Dwarf M Bunte Pflaume Burchams New Generation GL Captain Lucky BYM Caro Red GL Caspian Pink M Chapman GL Cheethams Potato Leaf BYM Cherokee Tiger M Cherokee lime striped? Chianti Rose M Chiapas Wild GL Chocolate Stripes BYM Church M Cleota Pink M Conner's Jewel GL Cooper River BYM Costal Pride Orange BYM Coyote GL Cuban Black GL Damascus Steel FY Dessert for Open Soil GL Desters BYM Djena Lees Golden Girl M Dr. Goodwins Red M Dutkas Pink BYM Early Pink from Far East GL Early Ssubakus Aliana GL Ed's Millenium GL Ernie's Plump GL Fahrenheit GL Ficarazzi GL Fire Cheese BYM Firesteel GL Fireworks GL First Mate GL Flathead Monster Orange Fresa de Loja BYM Gail BYM Gartenperle GL Gary's Golden Bear GL Gem State GL Giant Belgium BYM Gigante Maspalomas GL Gildo Pitroboni FY Golden Cherokee BYM Grandma Vineys Bicolor FY Grandpa Charlie GL Grandpap's Rose Wax GL Green Giant BYM Green Pineapple BYM Grightmires Pride GL Goose Creek (for seed) GWR Wildthyme Hative d'Orleans GL Hawaiian GL Hawaiian Pineapple Hays M Heavan Joy GL Hege German Pink GL Helsing Junction Blue GL Hershey Boar GL Hippie Zebra BYM Holy Land BYM Hopkins Yellow GL Improved Wasatch Beauty GL Imur Prior Beta BYM Indian Stripe GL Indigo Rose GL Istra GL Izobilie BYM Izumrudnoe Yablono GL Jd's special c-tex M Jim Dandy BYM KBX BYM Kalman's Hungarian Pink GL Kentucky Pink Stamper GL Kickapoo Creek BYM LYC 3204 M Leadbeatters Lunker GL Lenny and Gracie's KY Heirloom M Lithium Sunset GL Losinoostrovskij GL Lush Queen Madison County Pink M Magnum Beefsteak GL Malkhotovaya Shkatulka BYM Marianna's Peace GL Matt's wild cherry GL Mavritanskie BYM Maya and Sions GL McClintocks Big Pink BYM MegaMarv GL Mellow Chime GL Melon Ball BYM Mexico BYM Michaels Portugese Monster GL Mikado Orange BYM Mikado Scharlachrote GL Moldavian Bison GL Mortgage Lifter Pale Leaf BYM Muckleshoot Zebra GL Mullen's Mortgage Lifter BYM My Brandywine GL Negrillo De Almoquera Novikov's #10 Oaxacan Jewel FY Odessa Old Moscow Suburb GL Omar's Lebanese M Oncle Remi BYM Opalka Opals Homestead M Orange Minsk BYM Orange Russian 117 GL Our Own Pink BYM P20 Potato Leaf GL Papelmuse BYM Paw Paw BYM Peaches and Creme BYM Pearly Pink GL Pegs Round Orange GL Peppermint BYM Piennolo BYM Pink Boar GL Pink Furry Boar M Polièki Divlji GL Porkchop FY Premiere Revolte GL Primorski Pacug GL Primrose Gage GL Pruden's Purple M Purple Dog Creek GL Purple Dragon BYM Pusztakolosz BYM Páratlan GL Rainbow Siberian BYM Rebecca Sebastian's Bull Bag M Rebel Yell BYM Red Barn BYM Rideau Sweet GL Rose (for seed) Rose Beauty GL Rumi Banjan BYM Sacharnaja Sliva GL Sandul Moldovan GL Scarlet Dawn GL Scarlet Topper GL Serdtse Dezdemony GL Serendipity BYM Shoshone GL Siberian Fast Ripening GL Siberian Tiger BYM Sibirskij Skorospelyj GL Silver Tuckqueen GL Sirloin of Zebra BYM Shuntukski Velikan? Skykomish BYM Slovenian Black GL Solar Flare Spudakee GL Stripes of Yore GL Stupice GL Sugar Beefsteak? Summer Cider GL Summer Lightning GL Taos BYM Taylor Lacy Leaf GL Ten Foot Tall Red Pole BYM Texas Star GL Tiger Striped GL Tozalu Egpu Buyana GL Uj Üstökos GL Variegated Potato Leaf BYM Verna Orange BYM Wild thyme Rusty GL Wilford GL Woodland's Giant GL Yellow Out Red In BYM Young German Heart M Zwaan's Augusta M
[Hybrids] African x Amazon FY African x Porkchop FY Amazon s Sandul FY Ambrosia x Porkchop Amish Gold x Indigo FY Amish Gold x PDC BY Amish Gold x Rebecca Sebastian BY Amish Gold x Sandul BY Ananas Noir x Bianca FY Ananas Noir x Sunsugar F1 FY Bammers Luck F3 M(2) Barlow x PDC BY Bear Claw x Porkchop FY Beauty King x Indigo FY Bianca Grande xFirst light F2 M(2) 150 Bianca Grande x MayaJd F1 FY M(2) Bianca Grande x Pink Boar FY Bianca Grande x Sandul BY Blue Beech x African BY Cowlick x Ambrosia BY Cowlick x Sungold F1 FY ErnSug F2 BY M(2) ErnSug x Blue Beech M(2) Ernie's Plump x Ananas Noir FY Ernie's Plump x Blue Beech Paste BY Ernie's Plump x Coyote FY Ernie's Plump x Porkchop FY First Light F1 Fred Limbaugh x Bianca BY Fred Limbaugh x MayaJd FY M(1) Gildo x MayaJd FY M(1) Gildo x Sunsugar F1 FY M(1) Gldn Cherokee x Sungold F1 FY Goose x Pruss F1 M(1) Goose x Sandul F1 M(1) Gran Ash x Roughwood BY Gran Ash x Sandul BY Hege x Claude Browns FY Hege x Gran Ash BY Hege x MayaJd FY M(2) Hege x Pink Boar FY Indigo x Amish Indigo x Ananas Noir FY Indigo x Arbruznyi FY Indigo x Coyote FY Indigo x Fred Limbaugh FY Indigo x Lithium Sunset M(1) Indigo x Pink Furry Boar FY Indigo x Sunsugar F1 FY Indigo x Vernissage Pink FY JD x Bear Claw F1 M(1) JD x NARX F1 KBX x Berkley Tie Dye M(2) Lincoln x Pink Boar FY Lincoln x Roughwood BY Lincoln x Sugary Pudovich M(1) Lithium x Bianca Grande BY Lithium x ErnSug FY M(2) Lithium x Indigo FY Lithium x Pink Boar FY Lotus x Bianca BY Lotus x Fred Limbaugh BY Manitoba x Amazon FY Manitoba x Claude Brown BY Manitoba x Fred Limbaugh BY Manitoba x Purple Dog Creek BY Marianna's x ErnSug FY M(2) 128 MayaJD f2 BY M(6) Maya x Lillian's FY Mikado Black x Ananas BY Mikado Black x Porkchop FY Mikado Black x Sungold F1 FY Mikado White x Jds BY Mr, Fumo x ErnSug My Brandy x Ananas Noir FY Mystery (Eva's?) x Ernie's Oaxacan x Indigo OpalBlk F2 M(5) OpalBlk x Lithium FY M(1) OpalBlk x SunSan FY M(4) OpalMy x Bianca FY M(2) OpalMy x SunSan FY M(6) Opalka x Jds Opalka x My Brandy BY P20 x Amish P20 x Cowlicks P20 x Coyote P20 x Lithium M(1) P20 x SunMatt P20 x Vern Pink Pink Boar x Bear Claw M(1) Pink Boar x SunSan FY M(3) Pink Boar x The Dude M(5) Pink Furry x Ananas Noir FY Pink Furry x Lithium FY Pink Furry x P20 PrussProb x Marianna's FY Purple Dog Creek x SunSan BY Purple Russian x Jds Purple Russian x Paul Robeson F2 BY M(1) Purple Russian x Summer Cider F2 M(10) Purple Russian x Yellow Brandy F2 M(5) Purple Strawberry M(3) RbwPruss x Maya BY Red Brandywine x Opalka F2 M(5) Red Brandywine x Purple Russian F2 M(5) Red Brandy x Goose Creek M(1) Sabre x Opalka F2 Sailors Luck F3 M(3) SanGoose x Fred Limbaugh BY Sandul x Goose Creek F2 M(4) Sandul x Sugary Pudovich BY Sgt. Peppers M(3) Strawberry Leopard x Crazy Horse F1 M(2) Stump x Coyote FY StupRbw x Amazon FY StupRbw x ErnSug BY StupRbw x Lillian's BY StupRbw x MayaJd FY StupRbw x OpalMy BY StupRbw x Sandul BY Stupice x Purple Dog Creek FY Stupice x Red Brandywine F2 M(6) Sub Arctic x Ananas Noir FY Sub Arctic x Coyote FY Sugary Pudovich x Mystery (Eva's?) SunMik x Lithium Sunset FY SunSan x Ananas Noir FY M(1) SunSan x Marianna's M(1) SunSan x Purple Dog Creek M(3) SunSan x Stump of the World M(3) Sungold x Matt's Wild Cherry F2 M(8) Sungold x Mikado White F2 BY M(5) Sungold x Sandul (orange) F2 M(6) Sungold x Sandul (red) F2 Sunsugar F1 x Pink Boar FY M(1) Sweet Orange Roma x Purple Dog Creek M(1) Sweet Orange Roma x Sunsugar F1 BY The Dude F2 M(10) The Dude x Amazon FY M(3) The Dude x Pink Boar FY M(4) The Dude x Sungold F1 FY M(2) Vernissage Pink x Gildo Pitroboni FY Vernissage Pink x Roughwood Golden Plum BY
I plan to grow the following, this follows on from my 'Early, Bush Paste Tomato' thread (Thank you to Adamus for the first 3!).
Palmwoods Scattalone San Marzano Ropreco Czechs Bush
I'm unsure how many I will grow at the moment, probably I will sow 1/2 a tray of each (12), keep 5 and sell the rest of the plants to other allotment holders. I may add more varieties, it's still early
*Czechs Bush added
Can't wait to hear how they grow. Raymondo gave me a Ropreco this year, It's going gangbusters. It seems to love mild weather. Very prolific. Good Luck to you all.
I live my life like a child running with scissors.
These are the tomatoes coming out of the field. Lynnwood was one of the first ripe, along with Lieven's Teardrop and Piennolo del Vesuvio.
Our favorite tomatoes this year are: Piennolo Lieven's Crazy Horse Sioux Cosmo Dr. Carolyn's Pink
Crazy Horse has rich flavor Dr. Carolyn's Pink great acid balance Sioux Cosmo - not a cherry more like a saladette...good size! Piennolo - the tomato I would keep if I had to throw out everything else. Lieven's is just a really good tomato.
This was so hard because Dar sent me SOOO many good tomatoes this year. There's not a spitter in the bunch.
Of course it's August and I wish there were some earlier tomatoes. In the next photos I'll show some of the vines.
Post by littleminnie on Aug 12, 2013 21:01:52 GMT -5
So I don't think it was too much manure because the peppers next to the maters aren't that leafy and have lots of mature fruit, but the tomato plants are so big and leafy I don't know how to pick them. I hate pruning them! It always seems like once you start you have to keep pruning bottom leaves. Some of the tomatoes are taller than the corn. We had a little storm and I had to pick up some of them and pound in more stakes. One has 5 stakes! As usual I have two cages on each, except Stupice which usually just needs one but this year should have had two. The tomatoes are ripening very slowly around here. People think it is the cooler than normal temps but melons, corn and peppers are all fine. So I think it is just the year. So suggestions on how to deal with these huge plants? I am missing ripe fruit I am sure.
From the sandy potato fields of Sherburne county, Windy River Eco Farm grows heirloom vegetables, flowers and herbs for Market and CSA. Been growing since 2008.
Post by 12540dumont on Aug 13, 2013 10:52:36 GMT -5
Minnie, I got no tomatoes in April, May, June. I got a few in July. They are finally coming on. I think peppers and eggplant love the long slow to heat. But the extra morning coolness has slowed the tomatoes and okra. I'm going out to craw under the giant beasties.