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Post by kazedwards on Mar 25, 2016 23:55:37 GMT -5
Anyone know what's wrong with these tomatoes? The leaves are yellowish and curling down. Any thoughts?
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Post by raymondo on Mar 26, 2016 1:05:18 GMT -5
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Post by reed on Mar 26, 2016 7:20:47 GMT -5
The surface looks fairly dry in the picture but have you been careful not to let them stay overly wet?
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Post by kazedwards on Mar 26, 2016 11:40:03 GMT -5
That's what I was thinking too. I use jiffy organic starting mix and mixed in plant tone organic 5-3-3. 1 1/2 tbs per quart of mix. I would hope that is good but it might release too slow. From what I saw on Google it might be N or K. Does that sound right?
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Post by kazedwards on Mar 26, 2016 12:23:28 GMT -5
The surface looks fairly dry in the picture but have you been careful not to let them stay overly wet? Yes I have been. I have been having a problem with gnats. Watering as little as possible. First thing I did was water thinking that might be it but it wasn't. That's what made me worried.
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Post by raymondo on Mar 26, 2016 15:13:56 GMT -5
It doesn't look too bad at this stage and will hopefully disappear once they're planted out. In the mean time, some seaweed and fish wouldn't hurt.
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Post by kazedwards on Mar 26, 2016 21:25:57 GMT -5
Just went a bought some fish fertilizer. It is 5-1-1. Will start using it once the plants dry down a bit
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Post by kazedwards on Jun 7, 2016 22:30:14 GMT -5
This is a separate issue but I thought I would put it here. Question about tomatoes that had/have curling leaves. Of the plants that had it I only had to planted a few. Here is pictures when I first noticed it. Today I noticed two plants that still have the curling leaves in the garden. I will take a closer look tomorrow too. One of them seems to have started to put on new growth. The other was stunted by all of the rain last month. Here is the one that seems to have put on a little growth. And a picture of the stunted one. The old photos and the new are not of the same plant. I still have plants that are not planted and of those the curling is still there on some. I don't think it has gone away on any. The most affected is very spindly and is really struggling. I'm sure it is spindly due to being shaded by the other plants. Any thoughts on this? -Zach
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Post by philagardener on Jun 8, 2016 17:38:51 GMT -5
Folks are reporting no end of trouble with Jiffy mix products. Gnats, growth issues, etc.
Also lots of problems with apparent herbicide contamination of composted manure products that can be tracked back to treated hay.
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Post by kazedwards on Jun 9, 2016 0:27:21 GMT -5
That's interesting. I posted this on another site and they said herbicide damage, which I don't see as possible. I did have a huge problem with gnats this year and as you can see from above I used Jiffy Mix too. The only thing common is the jiffy mix. I used several bags and it is possible that all tomatoes with the curling leaves had mix from the same bag. The ones planted out still have the curling though. Hopefully now that they are bouncing back from transplant and the heavy rain they might grow out of it. I need to check my seed stash and see if I still have seed for the affected varieties. If I do I might pull the affected plants and replant with healthier ones.
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Post by kazedwards on Jun 9, 2016 0:33:10 GMT -5
I also just bought a bag of seedling mix a few days ago. It's not jiffy mix it's happy frog. I was having issues with the TGS that I started. Only have 5 seedlings now out of 20+ due to gnats eating the roots. I'm sure a few of the plants were duds but I think more would have made it. I'm thinking I will have better luck with the happy frog. Has anyone used it?
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Post by philagardener on Jun 9, 2016 5:40:09 GMT -5
That's interesting. I posted this on another site and they said herbicide damage, which I don't see as possible. I did have a huge problem with gnats this year and as you can see from above I used Jiffy Mix too. The only thing common is the jiffy mix. I used several bags and it is possible that all tomatoes with the curling leaves had mix from the same bag. The ones planted out still have the curling though. Hopefully now that they are bouncing back from transplant and the heavy rain they might grow out of it. I need to check my seed stash and see if I still have seed for the affected varieties. If I do I might pull the affected plants and replant with healthier ones. Herbicide contamination is coming through manures and commercial bagged compost with increasing frequency. Farmers are using chemicals on hay fields to suppress weeds and invasives; the chemicals are in the straw/hay and pass through the animals and do not break down during composting either. A common test for herbicide contamination is to start some bean/pea seeds in the mix. If they germinate and die, that is clear. www.rodalesorganiclife.com/garden/do-you-need-test-your-compost-contaminantsDrift from field and yard applications is another source, but you seem pretty well isolated.
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Post by reed on Jun 9, 2016 8:32:11 GMT -5
I'v moving totally away from using any purchased materials to start or grow my plants. I don't want some city sewage or spilled diesel fuel scraped up with commercial compost or anything else added to my gardens. With few exceptions I start everything outside in unheated cold frames in pots of my own compost and soil, I don't sterilize anything. If something doesn't like those conditions or the organisms in my soil then it is welcome to remove itself from gene pool. I'm looking for self sustainability and figure anything I can't provide myself or needs too much special attention is counter to that.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Jun 9, 2016 10:39:07 GMT -5
I don't sterilize anything. If something doesn't like those conditions or the organisms in my soil then it is welcome to remove itself from gene pool. I'm awarding this month's gold star to the above comment and the accompanying commentary. Well said!
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Jun 9, 2016 12:56:34 GMT -5
I also just bought a bag of seedling mix a few days ago. [...] I'm thinking I will have better luck with the happy frog. Has anyone used it? I have loved using "Coco Loco" which is made by the same company. Last winter, I received a card signed by a bunch of the staff at FoxFarm Soil & Fertilizer Company.
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