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Post by steev on Jan 23, 2017 23:24:59 GMT -5
I don't recall who mentioned cob-tight kernels, but I got it in my Joseph's Cherry Sweet last year; very annoying; can't eat that stuff; maybe because I'd been sorting out the non-red (yellow/blue} seed?
This year I'll go back to seed from earlier years, and we'll see what happens.
Really, if it isn't edible, what's the point?
Bear in mind, I'm only speaking of cultivated plants and our personal efforts; this is not to disparage plants that don't go through our guts, to our benefit, but which only help maintain the greater ecosystem, upon which we and our agriculture depend; industrial, mono-cultural agriculture clearly denies that dependency, but they have their heads up their bottom lines.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jan 23, 2017 23:34:39 GMT -5
hmm. well don't necessarily throw out any that have that trait. Maybe it could be bred to another corn variety you like and you can then reselect for the cherry flavor and color. I personally would like to see a red sweet corn crossed with country gentleman just to see a red shoepeg sweetcorn. don't know if it'd be any good, but it sure would look unique.
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Post by steev on Jan 24, 2017 0:00:15 GMT -5
Well, I look unique, but I'll not claim I'm all that attractive (these days; I was damned beautiful in my youth; IMHO).
Bear in mind that, so far as I know, the cherry flavor was in Joseph's imagination; I don't deny him, but I've not experienced it; it does have a remarkably red color (only when it's gone to starch; so pretty in salad or cooked goods, but clearly not sweet corn at that point).
I will certainly continue to fool with it, because it "works" on my farm, is "good". and may lead to something. Inshallah.
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Post by steev on Jan 26, 2017 21:32:38 GMT -5
Is there no red shoe-peg sweet corn? Given that Cali's drought has broken (Inshallah!), I'm champing at the bit to get many of my out-dating corn varieties into the ground for seed-renewal/increase. Maybe next year I'll take a crack at that red shoe-peg; sounds like the sort of windmill I'd tilt at. Can't say I'm much into Country Gentleman, no disparagement intended; to me, sweet corn is Golden Bantam; about all Grandad grew, corn-wise.
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Post by walt on Jan 27, 2017 14:10:57 GMT -5
My Grandmother grew both Golden Bantam and Country Gentleman. My grandfather called all corn "pig food" and wouldn't eat it. Modern corn belt hybrid corn gets its hybrid vigor by crossing northern flint derived corn with southern gourdseed or southern dent derived inbreds. In test crosses, Golden Bantam acts like a Northern flint. Country Gentleman acts like a southern dent. Putting both into landrace should boost yield whiie maintaining quality. I crossed them decades ago, with good results. I grew the resulting population for a few years. My daughter crossed them to learn corn breeding when she was 6 or 7 years old. But she always forgot and ate the hybrid ears. Kids.
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Post by reed on Jan 27, 2017 17:56:55 GMT -5
I haven't eaten CG for ages but if I remember right I wasn't all that fond of it. I thought of including it in my mix but left it out cause reported longer season that I really want and I'm not that excited about the shoe peg thing. There is plenty of eight row GB genes running around in mine.
If I was to grow just one sweet corn and keep it pure it would be Aunt Mary's, lots of it in the gene pool too.
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