Cracked open two squash tonight. A maxima that was, if not entirely Joseph's, strongly influenced by his work even after a generation or two of mixing with others. Ate some, then made pie and filled many containers in the fridge. Also cooked a small classic butternut shaped moschata with a broken stem descended from Joseph's green skimmed long of Naples influenced sub-strain. Wasn't as good as the maxima. Have a lot of squash right now. Need to give some away as usual I think. Really need to keep a good selection of the moschata genetics though. Also all the buttercups I'm keeping.
Last Edit: Sept 27, 2019 22:45:04 GMT -5 by William
Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Oct 3, 2019 9:28:32 GMT -5
I continue to work on the Maximoss (maxima X moschata) project. I have separated the project into two populations.
The first population has fruits that look more like moschata, and have the classic moschata peduncle.
The second population has fruits that look like my landrace maxima squash, except that I have selected for skinny vines and dense, non-corky peduncles. Trying to get squash vine borer resistance into a squash with classic maxima/buttercup taste.
I see a few plants each year that look like they might be 3 species hybrids ((maxima X moschata) X pepo). Alas, seed set and viability have been very low, and the next generation haven't set fruit. I planted Tetsukabuto F1 in the spaghetti squash patch this summer, hoping that some crossing will occur.
This year, I grew Maximoss and Mospermia (argyrosperma X moschata) side by side. Hoping to encourage a different type of 3 species hybrid ((maxima X moschata) X (argyrosperma X moschata)).
Silt/clay, high-altitude, super-arid, sun-drenched, irrigated-desert garden. Cold radiant-cooled nights. ~100 frost free days. Grow most of my own locally adapted landrace seed. GDD10C ~1300. Author of Mother Earth News: Landrace Gardening Blog.
Joseph Lofthouse , I think I sent you some Tetsukabuto F1. Were they in what you planted, if so did they make fruits, what did they look like? All of my squash died this year. First planting looked good in late May but never recovered from June rains. I just couldn't keep the ones planted after the rains stopped watered good enough. 100% total failure for my squash this year.
correction: I meant F2. I think they were pollinated by butternut. I still have bunch of them to try again next year.
Hey william pretty sure the seeds will still be viable from the moschata, as long as the fruit was ripe. I have volunteer squash every year from fruits that get missed and spend our harsh freeze/thaw winter on the open ground.
I haven't tasted any of my home grown squash yet--I've become convinced it takes 6 weeks after harvest for moschata and maxima to develop their flavor potential. I did figure out what that super aggressive, productive moschata in my garden was: Seminole. It produced fruits much larger than the last time I grew it (which was in a compromised location with worse soil.) I didn't find the flavor that great the first time but I guess my thinking was that I'd plant a single hill and hope it would share its vigor and productivity with the rest of the moschata in subsequent generations. We'll see how well that pans out. Meanwhile, I have a truckload of Seminole squash to eat, as well as two absolutely enormous Long of Naples and a single Violino Rugosa.
Joseph Lofthouse I'm giving some of your maximoss seed to friends who suffer terribly from squash vine borer. I'll have them report back on the success/failure of the growout next year. I know you don't have the bug where you are. You may not need to do too much tinkering--the maximoss I grew last year didn't seem to suffer from borer at all (though my yard is not a hotbed of it.)
Growing in a coastal zone 7a in the Northern Hemisphere. Hot humid summers and cold snowy winters. Plenty of rain. Sandy loam topsoil over clay subsoil, whatever the glacier left behind when it made Long Island.