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Post by blueadzuki on Oct 10, 2017 9:36:07 GMT -5
One thing of note is that, despite the fact that we here in the US tend to see it so, the trait is not unique to popcorns. A great deal of the flour corn of Peru is what I would consider "rice type" in shape. And I think I have seen the same in sweet from there.
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Post by blueadzuki on Oct 10, 2017 11:17:19 GMT -5
It's possible. Certainly teosinte kernels are quite angular when you take the shells off.
On the other hand, pod corn kernels are closer to pearl shape, so who knows.
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Post by reed on Oct 10, 2017 12:12:46 GMT -5
Couple years ago I decided not to grow popcorn in favor of my field mix and sweet. Despite that if you come across any interesting stuff and isn't too much trouble to drop in a link, I would love to read it.
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Post by walt on Oct 10, 2017 15:29:07 GMT -5
One thing of note is that, despite the fact that we here in the US tend to see it so, the trait is not unique to popcorns. A great deal of the flour corn of Peru is what I would consider "rice type" in shape. And I think I have seen the same in sweet from there. Some of the ears of 'Pencil Cob' I have mentioned before seemed to be rice type. But the whole lot of Pencil Cob seemed to be crossed.
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Post by blueadzuki on Oct 11, 2017 16:31:50 GMT -5
I HAVE CORN!
I took a little time today, and about $40 (which based on what you said, I assume you will reimburse me) but I managed to track you down TEN ears of rice kerneled non red popcorn.
One is the white and yellow strawberry like one I mentioned last week (they still had it)
The other nine are long cobbed ones with some variation of chinmarking. Well, except for one, that is also yellow and white)
You actually lucked out, in addition to being rice type and having a little purple one of the ears is what I usually call "velvet" type corn (corn whose kernels are matte, rather than shiny)
I took photos, but the internet is being stubborn.
I will also send you the nine pearl ears that came attached to these (since I am asking for the cost of all the ears, I feel it only right you GET all the ears. (if you wonder why there are 19 instead of 18 (since corn comes in bunches of 3) two of them had their husks break off, so they treated them as one.)
Oh and in answer to the question of whether pearl and rice can co-exist on the same cob, the answer is.....sort of. For some ears, the amount of "ricing" the kernels get depends on how far up the ear they are, so you can get ears where the kernels are very pearl like at the bottom and very ricey at the tip (sort of like how the butt and tip kernels of some dent corns have poor or no dents)
Hear from you soon.
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Post by blueadzuki on Oct 12, 2017 14:22:55 GMT -5
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Post by reed on Oct 12, 2017 14:56:49 GMT -5
If you click it the link just takes you to the snapfish homepage and bunch of advertisements. If you copy/paste it into the address bar it takes you to the pictures.
I switched to Flickr, and like it pretty good.
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Post by reed on Oct 12, 2017 18:29:25 GMT -5
The kernels I tried to sprout are dead, not even any swelling, just laid there and started stinking. I also shelled off some kernels from the other ears, they popped ok but not great and tasted good but were small and a little chewy. They were mostly hulless so that was good.
Seeing them off the cob and popping them reminded me much less of what I used to grow. It's kernels were much more rounded not flat on the sides like these and they popped better and larger. O'well, I wasn't very seriously thinking of growing popcorn anyway.
I gotta go to the town where that Amish store is tomorrow, I go right past it so think I'll stop and see if they have anything else.
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Post by reed on Oct 14, 2017 13:11:15 GMT -5
" I gotta go to the town where that Amish store is tomorrow, I go right past it so think I'll stop and see if they have anything else."- Don't buy anything for me... Too late had they had any, it was sold out. Never in my born days have I seen an almost complete absence of Indian corn around here. Spooky and encouraging at the same time cause my little patch did pretty well and matured a good while ago. I suspect the cool rainy period back in August and the ear worms that come late in the season are what caused their failure. Reinforces my theory that just cause you have 180 days of frost free time you best not count on it being hospitable in other ways that count.
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Post by blueadzuki on Oct 14, 2017 13:55:04 GMT -5
You too? It's been nightmarishly slim pickings here as well. By this time in the year I've usually collected dozens of bunches of ears of large corn for seed by now, as yet this year, I've just cleared seven (two of which only got in by having sweetcorn kernels on them)
Little corn is even worse, in it's own way. The miniature stuff that looks like Glass Gem is stable but that's IT, apart from what I have been getting for here, that is ALL I have seen of interest, and the total piles are pretty meager in their own right.
If this keeps up, I will probably have to exhaust my reserves to plant next spring.
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Post by reed on Oct 15, 2017 3:20:53 GMT -5
You too? It's been nightmarishly slim pickings here as well. By this time in the year I've usually collected dozens of bunches of ears of large corn for seed by now, as yet this year, I've just cleared seven (two of which only got in by having sweetcorn kernels on them) Little corn is even worse, in it's own way. The miniature stuff that looks like Glass Gem is stable but that's IT, apart from what I have been getting for here, that is ALL I have seen of interest, and the total piles are pretty meager in their own right. If this keeps up, I will probably have to exhaust my reserves to plant next spring. The little stuff like I pictured above is pretty much all I'v seen and in small amounts. Our local grocery has a little bigger but it is ugly and packaged in Illinois. Despite the fancy packages it is also obviously molded and worm damaged. I don't buy much anyway, just like to look. I want to grow decoration corn because it sells so good but also want to figure out how to use it as food and at $16 per ear to test for GMO it has to be pretty special to interest me. The miniature stuff that looks like glass gem? Does it pop? I'v never seen glass gem in person but from pictures the kernels look pretty round, more like the popcorn I used to grow than the stuff I see now.
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Post by blueadzuki on Oct 15, 2017 7:22:22 GMT -5
I'll let you know when I decided I have enough to sacrifice some to a test.
It probably does. A lot of people say the "normal" big Glass gem pops just fine (it IS a superflint after all). So I would imagine the miniature version pops as well, or better. In fact, based on what I have read, I'm somewhat sure that this isn't a matter of two different corn strains (one full sized one miniature) as people taking the extremes of one type of corn and growing them to the exclusion of the middle (which, I suppose is two types separate in the making)
The mini kernels look sort of like your bottom photo if that helps (oh how silly of me! Just look at my avatar to check kernel shape! Those are LAST year's mini glass gem cobs!)
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