Adams Undertaking

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I'm going to be moving soon to a place with enough land to garden to the fullest extant. There is a well on property uphill from where the garden, i was wondering if you guys have any ideas as to a good overhead irrigation for corn, to atleast irrigate it from above when its smaller. i found a 6 ft sprinkler from irrigation king, any better ideas? www.irrigationking.com/sprinklers/raintower-sprinkler-tripod-stand/6-ft-raintower-sprinkler-stand-1-2-brass-sprinkler-part-circle-adjustable-to-41.html how much area could one expect to irrigate with this set up? not high pressure set up of course.

if i switch to irrigating the troughs in between hills, would it be sufficient to water the corn with 2 rows of corn being watered by troughs 6 ft apart? or would 3 ft apart be more efficient, some will most certainly have 2.5 ft spacing between troughs. i was also thinking of making little breaks in the trough every 10 or 20 ft, to dam up water so it would run away less. would this irrigation lead to the middle to be to dry? we had some hot days not to long, and all the corn leaves withered a bit, during the heat of the day, the avati corn did not weather as well as the others in the dry heat.

my spacing with gaspe and mesquakie indian, worked quite well. next year i will sow 2 or 3 rows in between every other row, instead of just one. the  seeds i gathered off of gaspe dont look as healthy as usual, but that makes sense. i had to harvest them pretty early so they wouldnt mold. i may eat it mostly as a green corn in the future, just seems easier with mold. i could have got better yields if i planted a week or 2 later. i have an lb of seeds for next years, i plan on oversowing.... i was thinking of doing interplanting with mesquakie, like mesquakie spaced at 6-8 in spacing interplanted in the row with a 90 day corn, like blue bear dance. do you think these 2 together would work like that? does anyone have seeds for blue bear, i couldnt necessarily promise purity for seeds back, as i maybe growing corn in somewhat promixity, i honestly really pray my seeds dont die every time but despite my uncertainty they seem to live, plus my neighbor seems to have a field of tilled dirt. or any other suggestion for a 6 ft ish pretty corn, preferably flint. i want to interplant cherokee squaw, with gaspe like i did mesquakie. and maybe piamonte flint corn, interplanted with a shorter season pop corn, in row like i want to do mesquakie and blue bear. i have a good enough sized field where i can leave some room in between varieties, but i'll have to figure it out how to keep them pure enough. how much later would one think that mesquakie would flower before cherokee squaw, and leave enough time in between so they do not cross pollinate.

the mesquakie corn was short this year. is that because i planted it so early, and it grew well it being hot early on this year, that the sunlight day length made it shorter, or was it just other reasons. i think its about all pollinated now.

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I don't know how big your corn field is so my method may not work but as I hoe and hill my corn I end up with slight depressions between rows, sort of dammed up at the ends. I don't water often but if I think it is really necessary I just fill those depressions. works very well but again, might be too much work in a large field.

I find the only way to know how corns match on flowering is to grow them together and find out. I know that might not be much help but nothing else has worked for me.

I'm not familiar with the varieties you mentioned but I'm working on my own yellow flint this year. It has an old Mexican landrace, a dark yellow grex from New York and Carol Deppe's Cascade ruby Gold as the foundation parents. It will be colorless in aleuron and variable for pericarp. The Mexican landrace has dark purple husks. I expect it to be early and very pretty as well as good for corn bread. I expect it to be in six to eight foot range including tassel. Weather is very screwy this year but the plants look quite good so far. If things go well I should have seed to share this fall if your interested.

I see you have 188 frost free days, that would be enough to grow multiple generations of my corn per season, actually there are a lot of corns you might do that with. 

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I realized as I dug my garden, that the rocks where sculptures, faces, skulls, dogs, bear. Then I hit a soft rock, it was gold. ive found quite a few alien like species in the carvings, long and tall heads, and those sculptures have a fleshy and a skeletal side. And there is a long and tall headed monkey, the main sculpture of the tall head has a masculine and feminine side, long headed being a war chimp, tall headed more artsy and sensitive. They are the most beutufl works of art ever. There's quite a few snakes, and some crocodile like ones too. But what I'm saying about the gold and fault line is that some places of the field have much higher moisture content than normal. So there are large sizeable portion of the faulty field that is semi perminantly somewhat irrigated, as long as I am sensitive to where the moisture is, I should never need water. There's one plant that I belive water isn't very far under, it not everywhere, but where I find it I dig a 5 foot deep hole, this should allow water to infiltrate, makes a mound to plant on, and in the end should hollow and terrace, flatten the field. I plan on putting these holes/mounds on the edge of field, and sporadically. I want to diversify by planting these mounds and other places sporadically with other species of crop. If I plant peanut I want to plant some cowpeas with it, and such, somewhat randomly. I planted tarahumara apachito this year, I like it, it has dark green leaves, darker than others, kind similar to gaspe, I believe this helps photosynthesizeing in low light situations like bottoms of deep canyons. Do you guys know any other dark leaves corns? I also want to plant at low densities trees, that I will cut drastically, more for their roots, more in some part for the belief that some maybe nitrogen fixing without being known about, or maybe disease suppressant idk. I want to plant, beech, maple, cherry, ginkgo, and of course some legume. (More understory tree than not,needs the extra help!)

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So to be certain my, I'm schizoaffective bipolar and autistic. That means I'm real good at gardening by the advice of voices. Last year I had things tell me that my favorite running spot was full of seeps, especially if you look off trail for them, and that these seeps once held the native food source the federally endenengered bunched arrowhead. There are maybe 10 seeps ive found, a few weeks ago, I had something say in my head, say, go to that seep. I went, and I found 10 bunched arrowhead growing there in a seep that could hold maybe 500 or so once fully populated in that one seep, if they take root in the rest of the forest it May double or so the current population of the species. I think eventually, my land given the right type of erosion, may eventually turn into a seep, given enough time.

So other good idea I've had, I've started to stockpile wood, instead of just making pits of loose soil at the top of the hill, I'm going to fill the pits with a fire, cover with Dirt and water, and make biochar, I want the top of the gold fault garden, to have as much biochar as possible to work as a spunge holding water, the top of the fault evtually wont be so much a hollow more a mound in time. Has anyone experience with making corn stalks into biochar, I even wonder if making peanut hay into biochar is possible, if you extinguish it quick enough.

So I get pretty specific instruction on how to select my corn for next year, some to me represent women, I,lol put them in the center of the population, some are the sun and fire, they are women too. Some of the red ones have curses, the red ones are men, but some are good. Some are trees, like cherry trees, or a tulip poplar, trees are even trees when on fire, and some remind me of bad things. Some make me feel really good when I hold it in my hand, some not. So what I'm getting at, is I'm going to keep, quite a few populations in somewhat separation. I will plant, 20-30 ears at the center, these are my favorite, I want to slightly inbreed my favorite characteristics here, keep them as a separate population, then eventually maybe out breed them, I haven't exactly figured it all out, they will outbreed as far as pollen goes but not 100 percent. I'm going to also plant all the earliest ones at the corners. Some I want to plant deeper than most, 2 small ears felt real good, and I heard something in my head say they may have a lot of protein, I may plant those 2 in isolation near the edge of field. I will also save 50 or so cobs to make the general population. I'm turning it more flinty. I also I'm guessing from the hues of dark yellow, probably has high cartonene yellow in mequakie, that I'm selecting for.

I want to make a cross of tarahumara apachito and gaspe, I want to see if I cross them, if their leaves will be even darker than the 2 orginal varieties. It would be nice if I could get a corn to grow underneath the canopy of an earlier planted corn, then once older it will break through the canopy. trying to get a corn plant to grow in shade. We,lol see if I get around to making a cross. I'm also trying to grow Cherokee flour and Cherokee squaw. We,lol see. Apachito was nice, droopy leaves, it fell over, but once it did it stood back up and rooted itself just as properly with its convieninet air roots that are quite sturdy.

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I heard a story in my mind, it was about Cherokee squaw, it was a him planting corn, I always though women did that but idk, I'm sure every tribe is a schism just like everything else. But what he would do, is get 2 cobs, that where his favorite, the most beautiful he could find, plant those 2 cobs in a patch by themselves then select the prettiest cobs from the edge of where he planted to save for seed. Ppl where always unhappy with him for trying to sway the gene pool to much, but then he saved the women, and everone lived happily ever after.

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So I tried a new way to hopefully get extra biochar, get freshly cut grass, wet the grass down so it doesn't incinerte. Just before putting soil on the fire, make a ring of wet grass clipping around the fire, once it lmost starts to catch, throw the dirt on then water. If I can get the grass clipping cooked a bit and barely started ing to burn maybe it will work idk. But another thing I'm figuring around here, is I'm seeing a lot of faults. My friends tbones land was mined for gold along time go, my fault is much bigger than his, but I'm picking up on the shape, their pretty similar in shape to where seeps form and I am very familiar with that land form.. In the old farmers field .25 miles from where I use to live, there ws a wet spot in the middle of the field, that things would grow, when it is dry, that was about the only spot his corn did good this year. That spot is a fault. Where I use to live right by there, it's at the top of the hill, but there is a bowl depression turning back into a field, it's not that someone dug it out, and there isn't enough drainage area for a drainage ditch, it has good topsoil so its undisturbed, that should also be a fault, guessing how subsurface material is being eroded. But then at my uncles, there are 3 bowl shaped depression, kinda ditches, and he is also to close to the top of a hill to have that big of a depression. I expect these also to be faults, and there maybe much more gold in south Carolina, than previously thought because it got out of people frame of view, and they wherent sensitive enough to search for the right land marks. Thanks for letting me be part of this forum.

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I think I know exactly how to make a charcoal pit. I dig 3 ish ft down, separating out different layers of soil. I put a layer of grass clippings on the bottom, then a layer of course clay chunks, maybe 2 layers deep at center. These serve dual purpose to add air flow, I think also they burn their carbon, but also have a way of filtering out carbon, as dirt in fire turns black, id also imagine this changes the structure of clay and maybe the gold in the clay, the firing of it. Then I add layers of big sticks but not to densely stacked to add air, I pack the edges with grass clippings as I work the wood up, then add a layer of course clay on the grass clippings. Start the fire, add more wood , layers of grass clippings, and couse clay chunks smothering the fire with clippings as I go. When I finish layering grass, around edges of the fire, i cap them with fine dirt, then the wood still sticks out, putting very coarse chunks of dirt over the top to form a chimney. I'm kinda obsessive it turns into a course chunks pyramid, but I think the smoke is filtered. It loook s beautiful little pyrimd with smoke billow out, the burning of the pit is extremely mysterious, and looks like a gate to the underworld, or volcanoe.

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So quick story, you can delete this post but it's somewhat needed. I found a strange bucket labeled Exxon. I was very afraid ofnexxon, it was an oil oils can be highly volatile, I was very afraid, and put it deep in the woods the safest place I could think, I'm on antipsychotic and lithium and hate hallucinagens. But i touched what I'm calling the ark of the covenant in a plastic barrel, my hands started burning, no hazardous warning on bucket, then I got home, felt like I ws about to die, then started entering a different dimension, now all I can think of treasure hunting for endemic species in gold faults. I don't know if you get back to normal once you take the ark of the covenant, I'm having a harder time shoveling, but it took treasure hunting to new lvl. I think there's a lot of endemic species to these faults that work much better interplanted with symbiotic bacteria that isn't present unless you conjure the ground right. Good luck to me!

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Something to try to inoculate corn seed, before shelling you corn seed, leave them on diverse species grass field, for a half a day, then shell, and freeze, I think this introduces bacteria to increase yield, being sterile is the worst thing we can do sometimes!

[steev]

Sterile equals no life; no species has evolved in sterility; the trick is not to eliminate other organisms, but to enlist those that are beneficial partners.

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So something in my spirit has told me corns about done for. I don't really feel motivated in that direction. I left all the corn I ws going to eat, at my local forest, that's the only way I felt the forest would be protected and those in that forest. It was a good call, I'm very sensitive, I noticed one of the trails had wood moved in front of it like no longer used, but it felt wrong, a week or so earlier on that trail I had noticed someone territorially marking all the horse poo with a rock on top. The sign for the trail was still there, also present where beech limbs that still hung onto their leaves, this makes you psychologically feel trapped the leaves acting as a disturbance like trash, like your trapped between all the disturbances. So I made a few rock stacks to make me feel comfortable and opened back up the trail as it seemed wrong. On getting to the top side of the trail I noticed that the trail wasn't closed at all! It was some sort of psychological trap. When I feel uncomfortable on parts of trail, I would put all my yellow corn, as it makes you feel safe like the sun is there, and I moved any jumbled sticks away from trail where I felt danger, for psychologically humans feel less trapped then. Upon getting back to that part of the trail, where the 2 trails met, I noticed one of the small beech limbs had been stuck in the dirt, cut, placed in an upright position. It must have been to make ppl feel scared witch is how the predator hunts. So I brought my corn to the right place. The forest is filled with gold, and seeps, that if inoculated, would grow bunched arrowhead, but I fear authority, colleges around such vulnerable plants, it should be more or less secrecy. Near the trail is a seep, but also an expirement on relativity, it looked like a grow project, but the tubing stayed in the gorge going from well house to well house along the stream, I call it dark water. So relativity, was the expirement, that is my next fear. So we have a lot of problems with growing corn, one we select for yield not happiness. We selected outside of a tribal interaction. Corn is being linearized, continually, I think it all maybe come to linear, it's what they wanted but I think there maybe a static pressure based on variability that get water flowing up the corn plant, once there is no static pressure between chaos of the community, it turns into heavy water, life relies on each other's differences to make the machine work. So if I'm growing corn I would kinda like to only grow it one year preferably, then give it to someone else i respect to make their own adaptations. But what I'm getting at corn may not be there, I want to grow food communities, for chickens, goats, guineas and such, try to get them to live off the garden full time not feed them, select them for who can figure out how to feed themselves. This diversifies the world and keep the static pressure going. If anyone knows anything else to grow chickens I'd like to know. More permaculture based, I would almost grow something to let the bugs have it, and give the bugs to the chickens, anything to build a free actin community of life again. Tribe of chickens!

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I also plan on cultivating a few things I found growing at my gold fault, one is what I think is a peanut, but it has above ground seed pods, looks the same though, in my imagination it tells me the chickens can eat these seeds raw, but they maybe somewhat selected over time for who eats it well. Another is peanut looking, about the same,comes back after mowing but I'm not mowing it, similar, but not as peanut ish, the seed pods my mind thinks can be eaten by chicken but in limited quantities or by soaking the seeds a few times. Something tells me if you had the right plants growing in the right dynamics maybe quails could live, something tells me the peanut thing helps. But may need other support. Ive been thinking about endemic sat gold faults, and there's a lot of things missing, there are probably lots of plants that produce nitrogen in the understory, some may need human bones to live, or substitute using hair, but knowing different races of ppl support different plants. They need to innoculate the ridge lines, with feces and fur from cats, bison and elk and so on. Some plants may need a certain insect and likewise, little niches filled by planting one plant first, then you unlock the next plant to plant and so on.

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This is the type of treasure quest my mind goes on. I think pest suppression in blueberries maybe a treasure quest. I believe having 2-10 eastern red cedars per acre in blueberry prevents something, and the cherries from Asia commonly used for their pink flowers also suppress something at a rate of 3-8 per acre whatever feels best. I also believe hornets and yellow jackets are very good for blueberry. I found a few endemic plants to gold fault one was my "dying little cherry tree about 7 ft tall. Then I found them at issaqueena, they use to be 10 ft tall but now something killed them, they are maybe 2-3 ft tall 4 of them, look like dog wood when small but definatley not, different color twigs, different leaves, look so. Like rose! maybe near extinct but idk what it was. I used ash to lime the area of the seeps by contours, and tried to innoculate dirt from bog to tree, as i wonder if they are in a symbiotic relationship with bunched arrowhead, for nitrogen, and there is one there. The hogs rooted a lot of wetland, but I found a plant looked orchid like, only one in whole wetland, used large sticks to make a fortress so hogs can't root up. Put allot of logs in lower part of wetland to build crawdad and salamander pop. I'm going to try to innoculate maple limbs under the tree my chicken roosts, to bring in bacteria to tree. And take a few trees tulip poplars from where I found the other tall one, to innoculate, or carry of bacteria or bug with it. Selecting positivity.

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My next mystery quest is apple trees. Figs and apples shouldn't be planted together, give atleast a mile, 2 preferable, between them. Asparagus planted at rate of 500 sq ft per acre in 3-10 patches. Pernial sunflowers, the line that came out of a South Carolina university, its available from some seed companies but you have to know witch one. At rate of 300. Sq ft per acre. Weeds should be let to grow all summer long reaching over head by end of summer or so, do not mow, until winter, or after releasing pigs for apple drop, cereal rye and anual eye good winter cover crops, that legume that has hemp as the name sun hemp? Is good for summer, along with buckwheat and brassica cover crop. Hogs should be let on field, once just after pruning, and once after apple drop, make sure to protect plants. Place a bit of your own urine on each apple tree, for the first 3 yrs, then apply urine once every 25 yrs. pruning should be done late as spring as possible but before last frost, if available. * never use alchohol to sterilize pruners, if you use a substance, use vinegar, apple cider preferable, but none is needed, unless disease pressure high near lower areas of my state. * 5-6 hogs per acre, for 2-5 wks, up to 200 hogs per acre but no more, just let positive feelings decide when you need to do what you do, not legalistic idealism.

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Grapes have problems here in the south east disease pressure, but I hear the trick is to keep all muscadine .25-.5 miles away. And innoculate soil with horse urine at base of plants for first 5 years, then apply one every 15 years being sure to use different breeds of horse for the mix or a openly hybridizing line. Firethorn is also beneficial, so is mamosa, at rates of 15 small bushes per acre, but can be in a small clump doesn't have to isolate patches. A 15 sq ft of open water face is also needed per acre. There should be no well water present wehen planting plants, use only treated water, after that can use well water, rain works just as good a treated water. Keep donkeys and cows 15 sq miles apart from grapes., but only for the first 2-3 years, after that can reintroduce, but not less than a .25 miles away. Bison can be near grapes, and goats both beneficial and if you have them around grapes can keep cows but not donkeys, as close as .25 miles away, but make sure cows water source is closer to . 5 miles away. And never use cow manure on grapes ever.