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Post by coppice on Dec 28, 2010 8:38:18 GMT -5
Mike, I've moved to below the great lakes. The last Alberta clipper tore through north of me. Still its clearly winter here. About 2 inches of standing snow.
CFI's next meeting will be a seed swap. Jan 15.
CFI Community Food Initiative
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Post by coppice on Dec 23, 2010 22:37:32 GMT -5
I'm told hemp plants look quite a bit different than the medicinal plants. Un-monkeyed with hemp can get fifteeen or more feet tall. Boutique maryjane is maybe three feet tall.
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Post by coppice on Dec 23, 2010 17:03:31 GMT -5
[quote author=joseph board=soapbox thread=4918 post=51030 time=1293140632I'll take you up on that wager, I'll even go 10 to 1 on you...
They are growing the best hemp fiber plants that have yet been developed and they are constantly selecting for improved traits.[/quote]
Joseph, my point was we USAians have done nothing to improve fiber quality.
I'll stand on that when it comes to those short hermaphroditic plants.
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Post by coppice on Dec 23, 2010 14:24:09 GMT -5
Wild cannabis does not have a very high THC content. The strains we have today have been bred like any other flower. Just like roses, they have been bred for bigger flowers, shorter seasons, looks, scent, etc.. I'm doing this from memory of reading maybe as long ago as thirty years, any detail I have wrong should be based on lapsed time. None of this should be concidered as graven in stone. As supplies for hemp for rope dried up due to Japanese naval activity, a botany type by the name of Wendt or Wenzel was hired by the war department to try to hybridize hemp to increase its fiber production and reduce its recreational use. He kept at his task untill at least the late fifties. Several years later his work which noted his failed attempts to make hemp polyploidal had exactly the oposite result. It made a short stalked hermaphrodidic plant by use of colchesine with a lot more whacky, and a lot less fiber. Polymer rope replaced hemp.. Later in the sixties his work fell into some hippy hands and a new industry was born. Just as an aside colchesine is toxic. It does really evil things to people when applied in microgram sized doses. Modern pot has to be propagated or grafted as a result. I don't know what has been done to hemp in the interviening years. But I will take the end of the wager it didn't do a thing to improve fiber production.
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Post by coppice on Dec 22, 2010 11:45:01 GMT -5
Joseph, will shallots over winter inground where you live? mulched in I mean. Like Garlic divide them out in the summer when tops fall over.
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Post by coppice on Dec 20, 2010 17:34:52 GMT -5
coppice...same offer for you...if you want a deep pink rugosa, let me know. No, thank you. I've got some white's slumbering for an eventual front yard planting. Two paw paw for the back fence line.Thats about all that'll fit here for landscape plantings.
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Post by coppice on Dec 20, 2010 14:24:02 GMT -5
Paw paw probably do not transplant well from beds. They grow in pots fine, and can easily be transplanted into bigger pots. Needs two or more for pollenisation. Based on the size of fruiting trees I have seen, and seedlings I would not expect fruit before year five to seven.
FWIW when you first get fruit don't let the kids try to eat the whole crop at first sitting. 1, semi ripe paw paw aren't that yummy. 2, eat a peck of these and they'll clean you OUT! If ya get my meaning.
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Post by coppice on Dec 20, 2010 14:07:26 GMT -5
was going to order a few hardy bamboo and some fruits- rugosa rose, raspberry, and...? I just moved. So I have no bamboo anymore. Got mine from bamboo.com. I do have some rugosa seed, From a white I collected out at P-town on cape cod. It was quite wind pruned to a low stature that it quickly outgrew in central NH. Both black and native cane should take here. The rugosa I have (and all running bamboo) needs a stout soil barrier to limit runners. If you want bonsai sized bamboo check back with me in the fall. I have a varegated and a true yasabusa (most dwarf cultivar) I'm in SE-OH
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Post by coppice on Dec 19, 2010 20:27:58 GMT -5
I have a chronic disease, pot is of no use for me. I don't use it. That said I think it is criminal to put a person who has a valid medical treatment outside of their reach to benifit DEA-ATF or State PD.
Yea, bust granny whos laid low by chemo. It aint right.
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Post by coppice on Dec 14, 2010 10:22:27 GMT -5
Joseph, I'm curious have you made this sort of selection before? How well did re-dried seeds germinate?
I dunno if I'm bold enough to wake corn up (by hydrating) and try to put it back to sleep. Please post follow ups.
There is no criticsism implied here, just a "gosh, could this work" notion.
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Post by coppice on Dec 14, 2010 10:09:37 GMT -5
I want to grow olives. I think they are more cold hardy than some might think since they grow beautifully in the northern climes of Spain and Italy which are, globally speaking, at the same latitudes as much of the US. Methinks I'm going to be taking a closer look at the globe later today. Regardless, I hear a whole lot of stuff about why I shouldn't be trying to grow them here, but no one says anything about ever trying so how would anyone know? quote] I live (now) in SE-OH. I have kept an olive as bonsai for 10+ years. During my tinkering Ihave managed to kill several propagated (cuttings) by cold. Lower thirties will get leaf-drop, but the tree will recover. Lower twenties and the tree is toast.
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Post by coppice on Dec 14, 2010 9:23:23 GMT -5
I've been seeking a source for pawpaws for several years. Few nurseries offer them, and those are expensive. I'd be glad to find something suitable to trade for seed. Paw paw are grown in-near Kalamazoo MI by Ken Asmus (last name spelling?) er OIKOS Tree Crops. He offers saplings. Paw paw can be grown from seed, or at least I have had my highest germination rate by: planting still moist seed taken from fruit and set into shallow pot with quick draining soil. Over winter in cold frame. My best germination rate trial didn't pop untill spring had really warmed. I have not had good success with dried seed. I had paw paw overwinter successfuly in Central NH. I was not able to stay on site till fruiting size tree. For me the jury is out as to how much scarify-ing seed coat helps or doesn't. The first year bottomless tree pots worked well. Partial shade is routinely reccomended for saplings. Saplings take potting up well for years 2+ in nursery. I don't know how well this tree takes to hard pruning. It is probably not a good bonsai candidate due to large leaf size.
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