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Post by mnjrutherford on Apr 10, 2009 9:55:34 GMT -5
I would like to get 2 or three mulberry seeds! I would prefer the black or the red. I'll trade quaresmali at the moment. We have 2 or 3 trees already planted in our hedgerow, but I would like a couple on the edge of our "forest" area which slopes down into a creek.
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Post by mnjrutherford on May 28, 2009 8:12:50 GMT -5
 WAAAHHH! I have JUST figured out that the "mulberry" seedlings we purchased from the North Carolina Forestry Service are actually ELDERBERRIES! ::sigh:: I have been to busy to bother thinking about it to much beyond being glad that that they survived the first year and are growing. Then when they flowered into umbrella shaped "things" similar to the habit of carrots, I started wondering, "Gee, how the heck is that going to turn into a mulberry?" So I watched, waited patiently, when ZOWIE, I had a brilliant thought, check the COMPUTER!?!?!   Yep, we gots elderberries. Not a horrible thing, but I REALLY REALLY REALLY (can I increase the font size on that last "REALLY"?) wanted mulberries! WAAAHHH! So, all that said, if anyone wants to comfort me with some red mulberry seeds...  
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Post by macmex on May 30, 2009 6:13:16 GMT -5
We just planted (transplanted) a mulberry seedling which sprouted next to our house. I understand that there's some risk, in that some seedlings are male and don't produce fruit. But we figure it'll grow quickly and we'll find out!
Wouldn't it be easier for you if someone with a fruiting tree sent you a cutting, perhaps in the fall? Actually, if you don't have them there, then maybe you need a cutting of both a male and a female tree. Just a thought.
If I run across a fruiting tree (this is the season for fruit here) I'll make note of it and consider getting us both a cutting!
George
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Post by mnjrutherford on May 30, 2009 8:09:37 GMT -5
That would be fabulous George! It would certainly make my life easier. I can't exactly fuss at the Forestry Service even though I would certainly like to! Much more important to get the trees.
On a side note, Mike loves the elderberries and they are very good homeopathic medicine especially for women. It's a "calmitive"? ;D Maybe I need to eat a tree?!?
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Post by canadamike on May 30, 2009 19:17:57 GMT -5
Usually you do not eat the tree, only the berries  , but then, I am no specialist of american cuisine  |
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Post by mnjrutherford on May 30, 2009 20:32:05 GMT -5
haHA! Nor of natures medicinals it would seem! But that's ok. There was a guy named Euell Gibbons who, many years ago, did commercials for Grape Nuts cereal. He touted the health benefits of eating "certain parts of the pine tree". Remember the blackberries? In late spring one should dig new shoots including the roots. Hang them to dry, shake off the loose dirt, store them. In winter you make teas with roots OR the tender leaves to make cures for a variety of ailments that are common to cold weather. Green peas. I like the peas themselves, but Asian cuisine makes use of the tender shoots as well, preparing it as a green leaf veg in stir fries. Willow trees, the bark can be boiled and steeped. The resulting tea is a mild pain reliever and the analgesic ingredient in asprin. Woody twigs from mint plants can be stripped of their leaves (don't peek at the naked twigs cause it'll make 'em blush   ) then dried. When dried, you chew the tips to separate the fibers and use it to "brush" your teeth. All sorts of things can be consumed. Many more than our minds know of today. The knowledge of purpose and catalogue has been lost to modern people. If we could recapture even a tiny bit of that wisdom... Oh, and you know what mulberry trees are really REALLY good for? You chip off tiny bits of bark. Dry it. Freeze it. Run it through the blender till a powder. Boil it. Dehydrate it. Leave it in a muslin bag for 30 days, then it's ready. When you take it... it helps you MULL things over!!!! ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by macmex on Jun 1, 2009 6:11:20 GMT -5
My wife is into fiber arts (spinning, etc.) I believe he and her friends use the mulberry for making yellow dye. I'd have to ask her if they use the bark of the roots. We like the fruit and also planted our little seedling tree close enough to the chicken coop that the birds could enjoy the dropped fruit, thus producing a little bit more of our own chicken feed.
We have some good Cherokee friends here who are fantastic on things like you're talking about. The husband knows all sorts of things like flint knapping (working with flint). His wife is one of the most knowledgeable people we know for all sorts of things, but especially weaving and working with various kinds of fiber. It is so good learn from one another. We're their "resource people" for matters of goats, poultry and gardening.
George
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Post by mnjrutherford on Jun 2, 2009 17:19:04 GMT -5
Oh George! What a blessing you have! I would give a right limb to learn medicine from a Cherokee. I do fiber arts as well, mostly construction at the moment. But someday in the far flung future I hope to have a loom. I would like to weave though I feel I should learn to spin as well.
I would love to have the dye recipe should your wife be willing to share it!
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Post by castanea on Jun 13, 2010 10:56:28 GMT -5
Mulberries are ripe here now. If anyone wants seed, I have Pakistan (the huge fruit that is linked to above), Oscars, Silk Hope, Illinois Everbearing, and a Morus Australis with long white fruit. If you want seed though, be warned that I will send you the fruit. Extracting mulberry seed is a pain, especially from the Morus australis which has very few seed and they are also very tiny. The Morton Arboretum in Illinois has a Japanese mulberry that is sometimes listed as Morus alba and sometimes listed as Morus australis. www.cirrusimage.com/tree_Japanese_mulberry.htm |
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Post by plantsnobin on Jun 13, 2010 16:22:08 GMT -5
I would love to have any of those. I'll pm you my address.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Jun 15, 2010 6:03:41 GMT -5
I want some seed! Are they self pollinating or will they need friends for intercourse? Will they need to be sent to Pennsylvania?
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Post by spacecase0 on Jun 15, 2010 14:15:24 GMT -5
I have a red mulberry tree in a big pot,
it makes very sweet berries and
they are black until you start touching them, then they stain everything red, but the roots are a strange yellow color.
I will also have lots of seeds very soon, the berries are almost ripe.
it is the only mulberry tree for about a mile and none are up wind for at least 10 miles, so it should have not pollinated with any others,
PM me and I will send them out in a month when they are ready and have had time to dry.
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Post by castanea on Jun 15, 2010 19:29:51 GMT -5
I want some seed! Are they self pollinating or will they need friends for intercourse? Will they need to be sent to Pennsylvania? Each drupelet that makes up a mulberry fruit arises from a single small flower. So each fruit can have many different seeds, one from each drupelet, each with potentially different genetic makeup. But the drupelets will develop even if the female flower is not pollinated. So you can have a fruit that has no seeds at all, or 5 seeds or 20 seeds. Most of my fruit has few seeds which makes it a pain to extract the seeds, depending upon how you do it. Send me a pm with your address if you want some fruit. |
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Post by castanea on Jul 1, 2010 10:04:09 GMT -5
Interesting information for mulberry enthusiasts: Conservation Status of Mulberry (Morus spp.) Genetic Resources in the World- www.fao.org/DOCREP/005/AD107E/ad107e00.htmJapan has a huge colelction. Bulgaria has a surprising large assortment. |
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Post by synergy on Jan 22, 2011 0:56:52 GMT -5
I would like to get some Mulberry seeds of different varieties for winter 2011 to start planting if anyone has any.
I saved and froze Hawthorne if any one would like to trade .
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, but then, I am no specialist of american cuisine 
) then dried. When dried, you chew the tips to separate the fibers and use it to "brush" your teeth.
