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Post by americangardener on Nov 6, 2008 11:27:44 GMT -5
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Post by canadamike on Nov 6, 2008 22:15:05 GMT -5
I don't know where you found the 15 accessions, I can't see any. There not listed there, just beans, cassava and forage crops.
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Post by canadamike on Nov 6, 2008 22:24:18 GMT -5
I was talking about yacon . I saw on their map that they had transfered material in Ontario. Now which little Ottawa area would sell it? MMMMM  Somebody with an exotic name maybe?? Stop teasing, lil'devil, at least pm me  |
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Post by americangardener on Nov 6, 2008 22:28:27 GMT -5
I don't know where you found the 15 accessions, I can't see any. There not listed there, just beans, cassava and forage crops. Ok Michel.. i guess it's what i get for trying to help out. Now you're gonna make me do the work too!  Go to the start page. Log in if you have a username.. then go to the Beans Database page. Select the search by descriptors.. you'll get a new page with choices. Check mark the species.. then continue... and then you will get a list of the species names.. select pachyrhizus then add and it should get ya what you want to know. Course i just tried doing it so i could walk ya thru the steps and possibly get the list for ya.. and wouldn't ya know it their site isn't working right now. Something bout an apache error or something. Maybe the indians are attacking.  |
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Post by canadamike on Nov 6, 2008 22:44:37 GMT -5
Beans database only gives me phaseolus species |
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Post by americangardener on Nov 7, 2008 0:16:52 GMT -5
Ok.. sorry bout that.. it was under the Cassava database. Told ya it wasn't working last time.  Anyways.. same steps. check mark species and you'll get a list of ones to choose from.. select pachyrhizus then add then continue. I see no names.. just index numbers.. and they're all wild races.. and bout half are the erosus ones. |
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Post by canadamike on Nov 7, 2008 0:40:20 GMT -5
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Post by grunt on Nov 8, 2008 2:05:06 GMT -5
Michel: It's under forages. I downloaded the search results (10) if you still can't get to it.
Cheers
Dan
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Post by canadamike on Nov 8, 2008 2:19:31 GMT -5
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Post by Hristo on Feb 1, 2009 9:28:01 GMT -5
A word on ahipa (this can probably be found in the file as well): farmers in the Andes leave a maximum of one pod each plant, or grow some plants specifically for seed. If the plants produce seeds, tuberisation is delayed or even not taking place . I grew one plant for seed, one is left with one or two pods, the other ones are pruned, so they won't produce seeds. It takes forever for these pods to ripen off (there are over 20 pods hanging on the plant ), already more than two or even three months, and still not a single ripe one (and I did put them on SSE  ) Last year I bought ahipa seeds from Bolivia through ebay (Frank and Ray - same source for maca seeds). They were from Tarija region, and the plant indeed were determinate (as described in the ahipa pdf's on bioversityinternational.org), out of about 10 plants only 1 was maybe semi determinate (about 50 cm. vines) all others were very compact (no more than 10-20 cm). If you do not remove the flowers/young pods (A LOT of work) do not expect ANY sizable root/tuber. They flower early and indeed takes forever for the pods to ripen off. So they didn't ripen for me the seeds were shrunken and germination is near 0%. How about taste some will ask ? Crispy, juicy, some fibers (not good), quite sweet, not much flavor (somewhat like sweet flavorless apple). I would say needs A LOT of improvement, but has big potential. Inter-specific hybrids definitely has great potential. I wish I had access to them. The seller stores.shop.ebay.com/AndeanCropSeedsis ready to search in his area for other things, but since last year he added only few new seeds. So seems not very active. May I suggest something. We can make a want list with species/varieties that (may) grow in his area and send that list to him. I suppose when he see that many people are ready to buy something, he will be much more stimulated to search for these species/varieties. What is your opinion? |
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Post by utopiate on Feb 1, 2009 11:08:19 GMT -5
I was curious about that guy (Andeanseeds) and if anyone had delt with him. I did send him an inquiry about Mirabilis expansa seeds, but perhaps if others did also he might find more motivation to look for them.
Seems odd jicama isn't more widely available in Europe. I suppose the strong Mexican/American presence here is why it is so common in groceries now. They are all grown in Mexico I think. Large tubers, fairly cheap. quite good as you've described above. They are so common and cheap I just don't think I will motivate to try growing my own and ending up with a much smaller immature specimen if any at all.
So wasn't there a less common Pachyrhysus found grown by some Amazon tribes, it being of a much starchier nature than the jicama? I think therefore it was more suitable for cooking. Perhaps that was one of the ones you were discussing. Anyway, I have cooked and eaten Jicama.. its a bit too watery and mild to be useful cooked, much better raw imop. The only place I ever saw it used cooked at all was in Laos. They grew them a lot throughout SE Asian now. Thai.... Mun Keo. Indonesian.. Bangkuang.
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;D ;D ;D 
Somebody with an exotic name maybe?? 
Anyways.. same steps. check mark species and you'll get a list of ones to choose from.. select pachyrhizus then add then continue. I see no names.. just index numbers.. and they're all wild races.. and bout half are the erosus ones.
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