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Post by mnjrutherford on Apr 10, 2010 7:46:02 GMT -5
Right now I'm praying A LOT!!! And once a week I hand water with a fish emulsion dilution. I've had REALLY bad luck with peas. I have 2 rows of peas, about 35' each. The first row sown was cheap seed from the feed and grain shop. I planted about half a pound of seed on both sides of the fence that we have up for trellising. It took them a couple weeks to come up. When they were up a couple of inches I took all the special seed I've gotten from folks here on the forum and from GRIN, soaked them overnight in water, then planted them on the second row. Now, those are going gang busters as well. I am concerned however because yesterday I found my first wilted shot. No visible reason for it to be wilted... So, I dunno. Hopefully I'll get a pot or two of peas this year? Maybe? Maybe not? I sure want to get some canned as well. ::sigh::
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Post by galina on Apr 10, 2010 9:48:31 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, what are everyone doing with their peas this year? A few years ago I crossed Schweizer Riesen and Golden Sweet for an early, large, sweet, yellow mangetout pea. I selected for yellow, parchment free pods and called the new cultivar 'Court Estate'. This is the name given to our local area which used to be a royal hunting ground centuries ago. This pea is still not quite stable. Some of the pods were more silvery others more golden. I liked the golden ones more and called them Court Estate Gold. As expected the seeds is mixed coloured (because of their parentage), but just for 'grins' I have separated green, brown and heavily purple speckled seeds. Which means that I am growing 3 lots of Court Estate Gold this year. I think they will all look the same and that each batch will produce mixed coloured seeds in turn. We will see whether that is actually going to be the case. Maybe a cross of Court Estate Gold with Amish snap as well? Will see ... |
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Post by kathm on Apr 10, 2010 10:19:43 GMT -5
I'm growing out the F2 generation of a cross between Lancashire Lad (purple podded) and Oregon Sugard Pod. They are even interestingly different at the 4 - 10" high stage. Some are green and tall, some very purple, some dark green edged with purple, and short. I can't wait to see the flowers and pods!
I'm also hoping this year to cross Sugar Snap and Goldensweet with Carruthers and Ezetha's Krombeck Blauwschok. I need more garden!
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Post by galina on Apr 11, 2010 17:12:20 GMT -5
I'm growing out the F2 generation of a cross between Lancashire Lad (purple podded) and Oregon Sugard Pod. They are even interestingly different at the 4 - 10" high stage. Some are green and tall, some very purple, some dark green edged with purple, and short. I can't wait to see the flowers and pods! I'm also hoping this year to cross Sugar Snap and Goldensweet with Carruthers and Ezetha's Krombeck Blauwschok. I need more garden! I guess you are after a sweet, purple snap pod? What did the F1 generation look like? Which was the pollen father and which the mother? Yes that is the trouble with the F2 generation. I had one plant to a bamboo cane spaced something like 20cm apart when I was growing my F2s to be sure I could tell each plant apart. Much more space than growing peas for eating. How high did Oregon Sugar Pod grow with you? F2s are great fun, hope you get something a bit special. |
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Post by robertb on Apr 15, 2010 13:46:57 GMT -5
Right now all my peas are still in pots; twenty-odd varieties planted so far. I may well do some crossing, if I fancy trying two varieties which are in flower at the same time.
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Post by Rebsie on Apr 15, 2010 18:10:26 GMT -5
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Post by ozarklady on Apr 15, 2010 18:24:36 GMT -5
Rebsie, those peas are a work of art! So is the photography.
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Post by raymondo on Apr 16, 2010 5:34:49 GMT -5
Just beautiful.
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Post by Rebsie on Apr 16, 2010 6:48:40 GMT -5
Thank you! They do look gorgeous - but I had been hoping to get some edible pod phenotypes in the F3, and sadly that didn't happen. There was a two in three chance that they would be carrying at least one of the recessive genes for fibreless pods ... but this line seems to be a true-breeding sheller type and doesn't have the right genes for what I want.
There are various schemes I have underway to try to introduce the edible pod genes, such as crossing them with one of my really good edible-podded yellows, and also going back to the F2 to see if I can find an edible-podded red phenotype among the seeds I have left. In the mean time, with the help of MyBigHair, I'm hoping I might be able to develop a red-podded sheller version if I can get some half decent tasting peas out of it.
As beautiful as it is, there's still a fair bit of work to be done on this one.
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Post by raymondo on Apr 16, 2010 8:10:51 GMT -5
An unexpected joy is a delight. Now that you know such a delight is possible, I'm sure you'll find it.
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Post by ottawagardener on Apr 16, 2010 8:14:08 GMT -5
I'd plant it for shere beauty but appreciate you making it tasty too.
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Post by mortality on Apr 16, 2010 11:17:59 GMT -5
Beautiful pictures Rebsie, such an exciting project ;D
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Post by kathm on Apr 16, 2010 14:02:34 GMT -5
Hi Galina, the F1s were mingled green and purple podded - I thought of them as 'Monet' peas - quite nice eaters - shellers. Lanscashire Lad was the pollen parent. I get about 4ft height from Oregon Sugar pod here. Yes, a sweet purple edible podded pea would be delightful. I don't expect I'll get a stunner like Rebsie's Red though - Goldensweet in the family made it special I think!
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Post by galina on Apr 17, 2010 4:51:37 GMT -5
Rebsie
the multicoloured tendrils just blow me away. Very pretty indeed
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Post by galina on Apr 17, 2010 5:18:56 GMT -5
Hi Galina, the F1s were mingled green and purple podded - I thought of them as 'Monet' peas - quite nice eaters - shellers. Lanscashire Lad was the pollen parent. I get about 4ft height from Oregon Sugar pod here. Yes, a sweet purple edible podded pea would be delightful. I don't expect I'll get a stunner like Rebsie's Red though - Goldensweet in the family made it special I think! No Rebsie's is a whole new colour - very exciting. That means OS is quite tall and needs support - thanks Kath. I am growing a few for the first time and they are usually referred to as short. I hope there will be a quantity of edible pods among your F2s, that would be nice. Hopefully in both colours too to select a nice candidate, or several, to proceed with. In my cross, all F1s were all green, and recessive yellow showed up again n the F2s. Most yellows were shellers too, but I got lucky with a parchment-free one. Unfortunately yellow shelling peas are not that attractive, but as they were much earlier than the normal shelling peas still interesting. |
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