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Post by canadamike on Nov 20, 2008 2:14:06 GMT -5
I finally found a picture of a delicious and absolutely gorgeous tomato, the ORANGE BOURGUOIN. In France, it is constantly in the top 5 list of tomato afficionados, a really divine treat that I was too stupid to take in picture in its full glory this summer. I have not yet seen a truss of tomatoes more appealing to the eye as these. The 2 firsts are a bit bigger, but the others end up pretty much all the same once they ripen, and their orange color is amazing. Think golf ball size. You pick the whole truss... and everybody goes for it. Bring as many different tomatoes of all the colors you want, people will notice them first. And they are so delicious that they have their own jam etc... recipes. I sure plan to sell some next year... I'll do my best to get seeds of them. This is one nobody should be without. It is only a picture of a green truss, but imagine them all golf ball size and oh so orange...  |
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Post by sandbar on Nov 21, 2008 23:19:05 GMT -5
Sounds very interesting. Where did you find seeds for this variety? Do you (or anyone else) have recommendations for truss type tomatoes? That is an empty spot on my 2009 grow list (I have added this one pending finding a source for seeds) and was hoping to find a red one for market. Oh, I currently have 34 varieties on my 2009 grow list. That is a far cry from just under 90 (around 400 plants in the ground) this past summer. I just can't do that again ... that was murderous ... but, fun nontheless!  |
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Post by canadamike on Nov 21, 2008 23:27:44 GMT -5
(I have added this one pending finding a source for seeds) humm humm!! As if you did not know who to ask!!!  |
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Post by canadamike on Nov 22, 2008 0:19:23 GMT -5
What size of tomato are you looking for in your trusses?
I would very very definitely consider RIESENTRAUBE, for its huge large trusses ( easily 25-30 tomatoes) I remember having read ''up to a 100 tomatoes per truss'', which made me buy it. Well, you probably get 100 flowers or so, but it never went up to that number of fruits for me, but boy are these fruit trusses BIG. But they sprawl in all directions. To avoid if you want the orderly linear ones.
In smaller but more manicured nice trusses with some quite crack-resistant tomatoes, I would pick Gardeners Delight. I remember it was ( at least as far as I know) first put on the map around 20 some years ago by Thompson and Morgan. It deserves its name.
There are also the two good old standars, SWEET 100 and its ( not necessarily better for me ) offspring, SWEET MILLION.
One that could be excellent in the saladette/truss tomato category is PRINCIPE BORGHESE. Trusses of mostly 5 to 7 small sweetish plums that mature quite gradually but the first ripe tomatoes stay hung solidly to the truss, so you can wait for the last ones to ripen
I don't know why cherry tomatoes are not ALWAYS sold in trusses, they are much more eye catching and hard to resist. People tend to use them as table centers or in a bowl that is put well in evidence because they are so beautiful.
Well, buddy, this is my 2 cents on it. I lost most of my seeds in the move but I sure can get ORANGE BOURGUOIN for you get ready to see them fly away at the market, they are customers magnets.
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Post by grunt on Nov 22, 2008 0:46:10 GMT -5
Sandbar: I hear you! We overdid it this year too, with 530 plants and about 200 varieties. Next year we cut back to what we have been able to handle in the past, around 350 plants, and about 75 varieties - - - and 35 beans, 20 squash, 20 melons, 5 or 6 corns, and what ever else we get ourselves into. I am working on three truss cherries now, but they are a ways from stable yet. I'll post about them when I think there is a chance you will see what you want to when you grow them. There's a red, a black, and an orange, all from unknown parentage.
Cheers
Dan
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Post by michaeljohnson on Nov 22, 2008 2:31:24 GMT -5
I grew a few Orange B, plants this year but only got a few toms off them as the wet cool weather ruined them right at the end, so I will try again next year.
Of the other one Reisentraube= I have never come across good seed for it yet, most seed available never comes with large flowering trusses, just normal size trusses, even Carolyn Male said she found that only a small percentage of plants gave the large flowering trusses , whilst all the rest were normal.
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Post by sandbar on Nov 23, 2008 23:22:43 GMT -5
Michel, I would LOVE to try some of the Orange Bourguoin! Please hold on to them until I get my trade list together, which will be after Christmas ... *sigh* Val, you and Dan were part of my problem this year ... you folks generously sent me an awesome gift package of varieties you liked. Well, of course, I had to try them all!!  Do you have wide shoulders and can I still blame my tomatoe insanity on you rather than on my complete inability to stop starting more plants? LOL It was a great summer because of the generosity of folks like you. I tried about 60 new tomato varieties this year. Found some absolutely oustanding ones like Giraffe Abricot and Guido. |
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Post by grungy on Nov 23, 2008 23:36:34 GMT -5
Of course you can. Our shoulders are more than wide enough. Glad that the tomato insanity has got you too. PS - pass it on. Now when I get done doing the bagging - can we "sneak" some more your way. LOL
Cheers,
Val
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Post by canadamike on Nov 23, 2008 23:39:30 GMT -5
Maybe Sandbar, maybe.... I'll think about it...  |
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Post by grunt on Nov 24, 2008 2:36:30 GMT -5
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Post by canadamike on Nov 27, 2008 23:41:46 GMT -5
Dan, you're making me hungry!!Sandbar, orange tomatoes the size of ORANGE BOURGUOIN are now the new thing at the grocery store here, like alfew more varieties of smaller tomatoes, but they are put more in evidence than the others and sold in trusses. It used to be Campari and one smaller, usually a grape one, plus a red truss, now there is 5-6.
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Post by sandbar on Nov 28, 2008 14:25:09 GMT -5
What size of tomato are you looking for in your trusses? I also wouldn't mind growing some larger tomato (say 2-4 oz., you know, like Siberian or Early Girl sized) truss tomatoes. I see them in the stores, but I wondered if they were picked green and gassed to make them all ripen evenly ... |
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Post by canadamike on Nov 28, 2008 16:26:55 GMT -5
It is probable, they tend to ripen successively. One that would do it is BLOODY BUTCHER, about 1.5 -2 ouces at the max. But boy are they good and productive. Think bigger than golf ball,but smaller than tennis ball, closer to golf ;D
They hang in there and I always could pick them at 4-6 per truss.
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Do you have wide shoulders and can I still blame my tomatoe insanity on you rather than on my complete inability to stop starting more plants? 
