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Post by Alan on Feb 28, 2009 18:32:17 GMT -5
Once again looking for any number of open pollinated sweet corns for trial this year. I have several, probably close to 45 right now but am still looking for new genetics. Anybody got anything good or no a good source? Any sweet corn collectors out there?
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Post by Alan on Mar 17, 2009 21:04:46 GMT -5
Is no one propagating or conserving corn?
Looking for blood brothers, mandan red, anasazi red, Hopi Pink (Grunt and grungy sent me a Hopi Pink, the one I had grown before was a much lighter coloration, theirs is dark red). Many others floating around, would love to have some others.
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Post by pugs on Mar 17, 2009 22:21:08 GMT -5
I've got some Blood Brothers I could send you, but it isn't a sweet corn. I got them from Abundant Life before I realized I have way to many corns to grow out this year.
Just let me know if you want some and I'll get them in the mail to you.
Pugs
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Post by silverseeds on Jul 8, 2009 15:08:40 GMT -5
I will have a growout of a native american flour corn in a couple weeks, called 60 day tohomo o'dam . I think I spelled it right. It originates from coordao I think. havent tasted it yet it is just now tassling. I didnt get a chance to get pollen bags or anything so cross pollination is possible but not likely because there is no commercial growers of corn for hundreds of miles. I have one nehibors three blaocks away or so on the other side of a couple of wals who is growing corn but it appears his is going to be much later then mine. Let me know if you want some, since this is a flour corn, all of it will be dried and saved, so I will have more then enough seed for anyone willing to pay the postage. I wanted to add that it isnt prducing as fast as 60 days but it is really quick, It is a short stumpy corn kinda.
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Post by canadamike on Jul 8, 2009 21:46:00 GMT -5
Hello silverseeds. I would much appreciate half a pound or even one pound of seeds if it is possible, an early indian flour corn like that is bound to mean something in my trials and breeding work. I can offer you whatever you want in exchange. Other flour corns or else.
I am working on early flour corn and indian corn is the best in the world bar none. The canadian largest organic dairy milk coop is involved. Any early flour corn like that is of prime interest for me. I can offer you seeds of the best ones I am growing after maybe, or money, or whatever again.
How high is the corn??
Michel
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Post by silverseeds on Jul 9, 2009 0:45:01 GMT -5
Okay no problem but you have to pay for shipping and wait a few weeks till it is ripe and dry. And like I said cross pollination from someone else is possible but not very likely at all. I forget the exact areas, but this particular corn I ve read, produced much better in trials done in many cooler short season areas, then any other tested, including many hybrids which generaly have that vigor especialy with corn. So yes this is a special corn which is why I want to share the seed. The corn is pretty short actually, looks like it might be producing more then one ear, because alot of them have what appears to be extra stalks. I actually ripped alot of them off at first thinking they were seedling popping up late. I planted around 220 plants I already pulled about 20, and maybe 40 to 60 more I plan to cull. But first I wanted to see if I should just leave them for extra pollen, I hear saving seed from 100 plants is minimum and I intend exactly that, seed from the best hundred unless of course theres more then that worth while. Or do you think maybe i should pull the tassles on the culled ones, (culled in the sence Im not saving its seed, although the earlier culls were actually pulled) should I just pull the tassles on these and eat them? Im not sure which way to take that part yet. but it seems nice and healthy to me, Its certainly the shortest corn I ever saw starting to tassle. I would have to go out and look at it again to say exactly how tall it is though.
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Post by silverseeds on Jul 9, 2009 1:02:00 GMT -5
as for trades do you have any -Phaseolus coccineus- runner beans? preferably in bush form. Or bush peas, Id have to get my list of which types of those I already have have about 5 or 6 now. Or another one I realy want is the silverleaf or argenteum pea. I see your in canada. Is there any wild canadian fruits or nuts you might be able to turn me onto that I never heard of, or edible greens or herbs? I have a very short season, thats very cool most nights, maybe you have a tomatoe that does well, or whatever else, you could think of Im interested. I have alot of bases covered but am builing my own little seed bank. Have any purslane, dandelion , or plantain, wild edible grasses with large seeds.
I will just give it to you, but if you hae anything on that description, it would make the deal that much sweeter. We could just trade then instead of you paying postage.
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Post by canadamike on Jul 9, 2009 1:18:58 GMT -5
Here my friend, we tend to give it to each other. As for your needs, I would like to know where you live and some description a bit mor eprecise about your climate. If I cannot come up with what you like, somebody will step in. I sdo not have the pleasure to know you but I have the immense satisfaction to see you've got the sharing spirit.
Send me a message so we get to know more about each other and what you need in more precise terms, but do not be surprized if somebody pop in to help you out before I do.
This is the kind of place HG is, allthough it is very slow in summer because we are mostly all in the fields.
You want to share biodiversity, so all my seeds are yours. I do not own them, they own me. As Val ( Grungy) and I often say, we are conduits, not destinations.
And , like me, many folks here have access to genebanks. If I send you some of my genebank seeds they have to be well taken for and reproduced. The others I do not really care usually, unless there is a need for it.
I have thousands of seed accessions like many ,many others here. And all of us grow them eventually, by that I mean not always every year, but enough to keep them alive.
Welcome here
Michel
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Post by silverseeds on Jul 9, 2009 2:24:02 GMT -5
Well i agree with everything you said. Although Im on a tight budget, so thats the reason I would ask for postage or a trade. I agree I dont own the seed. I literally am building my own little bank just in case I DO need to seriously give them to people, problem is they wont tke it lol.
I live in the high dessert of new mexico an hour east of albuquerque. We have pretty cool nights and a pretty short growing season. day and night temps vary greatly. I cant tell you th exact planting date I didnt write it down. Its been growing roughly 50 to 55 days now I belive, roughly. 60 at the most. Its just starting to tassle the way I planted it was in a pretty heavy powder clay soil with about half light soil pulled from under pine trees at my land. This greatly increased the soils quality, but it isnt the best still. But theres beans and cucumbers growing in the same area all seem healthy. I planted around 220 spots 2 to 3 seeds each hole. then picked the best of each. Then pulled a few of the ones not growing right, Im trying to save all the ones who grow best under these mediocre conditions. Last year I grew the same corn, although this growout is still from the original seed source, not the ones I grew last year as a test. Last year I had little moey for soil improvement and didnt have the means to get to my land to get any, so I planted it straight into my heavy soil this corn and potatoes are the ONLY things that produced for me with no amendments, the ears were small but completly filled, and that time I purposefully CRAMMED them together, Im talking two inches apart. this year I started from the ame original seed purchased from seed nativeseeds.org.
this is their description of it
Extremely fast desert-adapted corn traditionally grown by the Tohono O'odham with the summer rains in floodwater fields. Short (6-10") ears with white kernels on short plant stalks.
Im pretty sure it is carol deppes book about breeding that named a place in europe with a short growing season in which this corn out performed all others but I couldnt find it just now, if I come across it I will list it for reference. they hadnt grown it in the dessert by the way, and now that I looked it up at native seeds, I think it might have been the moajve I have which is similar in all regard which was from colorado. I cant think of any more relavant info on it....
Like I said if you dont have the seeds I wanted I will still give it to you, but youd have to pay for the shipping I simply dont have the resources to send it to people. Im a stay at home dad, with lot on my plate, and a 2 year old you must understand. I hope that doesnt offend anyone.
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Post by silverseeds on Jul 9, 2009 2:40:05 GMT -5
by the way I wouldnt expect a pound of seed in trade, just variety, enough to account for the price of shipment would make it worth my money. I seriously dont want to offend but Istill intend o search out more of certain things and that seems like a good way to kill two birds with one stone. Plus I have a wife to consider lol shes the one making the money, and If I tell her I just spent 10 dollars to mail some nice guy in canada some seeds but she cant spend 15 on a new pair of shoes, I will have issues on the homefront, now if I got something out of it especially something I cant get elsewhere she should be fine. Im not joking either, shes great, but that is one area that is kinda tight. We only shop at good will for clothes, all our money is devoted to projects you can read in the welcome board room. Well actually to be hoenst we are now broke waiting for her to start teaching in august, but after that, we have our money catalgoued, and that our first goal. Also if noone else wants this seed, you can have more then a pound. all depends how much I get and if anyone else wants it. Im certainly going to keep a nice pile though. Im sorry this is just where I am in life in the future I might be able to just send it out to whoever.
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Post by silverseeds on Jul 9, 2009 2:43:04 GMT -5
oh yeah do you know the last 40 to 60 I plan to not save seed from should I detassle them and eat them or should I let them pollinate with the others, but eat them rather then save seed. Im only saving seed from the healthiest class of plants. If anyone knows this answer let me know....
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Post by silverseeds on Jul 9, 2009 11:54:45 GMT -5
Early Canada, a little bigger , earlier and better tasting.
It is only offered by Mackenzie seeds from Manitoba, a pure shame.
canada mike I saw you post this to another thread, Maybe you know a friend with a little of this seed. I would REALLY like that.
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Post by canadamike on Jul 9, 2009 22:58:36 GMT -5
Let the corn tassle and pollinate the other ones if they are good ^plants. Fot the early canada, I am making seeds. You are in my friend, but do remember them to me in the fall.
Nobody is offended by the fact you need money to mail.
Nobody at all
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Post by silverseeds on Jul 12, 2009 18:42:32 GMT -5
Shouldnt be to long now. All the ears are tassling and the silks are forming. Im very curious about all these extra stalks on this corn. Looks like I might be getting more than one ear per plant, but on another stalk rather then under the first one, like I have seen before.
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Post by silverseeds on Jul 13, 2009 18:53:48 GMT -5
This corn is crazy. I told you how it had multiple stalks, well now there IS tassles coming out of a few of these extra stalks, and most ears have 2 ears forming on just the first stalk. so Im not sure whats going on, but a few have four stalks, and two ears on the min stalk so will these have 5 ears of corn? I never heard anything like this.
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