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Post by bluelacedredhead on Apr 1, 2007 12:42:30 GMT -5
Alan, can you explain a bit about your breeding experiment with Mer de Nomes?? TY
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Post by Alan on Apr 3, 2007 22:04:58 GMT -5
Yeah, it was just sort of an experiment that fell into my hands a couple years ago, my neighbor gave me the original tomato/seeds. It actually was orginally an accidental cross between small fruited red cherry and a family heirloom red tomato his family had traditionally grown (the only two tomatoes my friend had grown the year before). He ended up with 5 plants that produced 1-3 oz red tomatoes that were blemish free, round and red the next year, he thought they were good enough to keep and passed it on to me, in the past two years, i've grown it from seed 6 times (using the greenhouse and the natural summer season) and have selected for uniformity, taste, and size. It seems to be fairly stable now, if you find any instability please let me know and send me some seed as i'm keeping a few off types on hand for future research.
There is another Mer De Noms as well, it's a black variant, but it is an "on purpose" cross of red Mer De Noms with Nyagous, it's still got a bit to go before it's stable, if I get on it I might be able to offer it as a promo by next spring I hope!
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Post by johno on Apr 3, 2007 22:24:26 GMT -5
I'm excited to try Mer de Noms, but the black variant sounds even more enticing. Does it set in clusters?
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Post by Alan on Apr 3, 2007 22:32:48 GMT -5
yep, it sets in clusters, is a determinate, and very manigible/almost dwarf. I've kinda selected it to grow in greenhouses but I do have some indeterminate seed that i'm growing this year as an outside varriant (mer de nomes black #2)
You guys will all be recieving seed as soon as it's available and that's a promise! -Alan
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Apr 3, 2007 23:03:48 GMT -5
Thanks for the explanation Alan. Good luck with your plans this season. I didn't order any tomatoes from you..I have more than enough right now as it is.. But I'll be watching to see what others say about your efforts.
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Post by Tom Akers on Apr 3, 2007 23:36:21 GMT -5
Here's my current list:
4th of July Aker's West Virginia Aunt Ginny's Purple Aunt Ruby's German Green Azoychka Black Cherry Black Sea Man Bloody Butcher Brandy Boy Cherokee Purple Cuostralee Dr. Carolyn Earl's Faux Early Girl Gardener's Delight Golden Queen - USDA Green Zebra Jet Star Noir de Crimee Paul Robeson Perito Porterhouse PrimeTime Pruden's Purple Purple Russian Reisentraube Roma Rose De Berne Sun Gold Supersonic
I may have to pare it down some or till the whole yard. ;D
Happy gardening to all. Tom
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Post by downinmyback on Apr 4, 2007 19:44:34 GMT -5
Hey Alan remember that Aussie tomato called BRUNO i was trying to get seeds from. The seeds arrived yesterday . After i save the seeds this fall i will send you some. I am tickled to get that one.
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Post by johno on Apr 6, 2007 23:01:34 GMT -5
BLRH, where'd you get the Aker's W.V. Black? I would like to hear more about it, and how it does this year, especially compared to Aker's W.V.
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Post by houseodessey on Apr 8, 2007 12:18:09 GMT -5
I was afraid to reply until I was sure my seedlings would make it.
Here's what I'm confident will survive as far as heirlooms are concerned:
Golden Sunray Green zebra Arkansas traveller Plum Lemon Cosmonaut Volkav Mortgage Lifter Boxcar Willie Cherokee Purple (I direct seeded these a few weeks ago and they're doing awesome compared to my indoor starts) Pineapple Beefsteak Brandywine German johnson Mr. Stripey
Heirlooms that are iffy
Black Crim San Marzano Kty Beefsteak
Hybrids Better bush Sweet 100 Early girl Classic Roma
Hopefully they'll survive hardening off.
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Apr 8, 2007 14:14:56 GMT -5
Johno, it was from someone on Tomatoville. The offer is now closed. But like you, I thought it would be interesting to see how it compared to the pure variety. I love Black tomatoes anyway, so most of them will just go for table use. But if they turn out nice, I'll save a few.
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Post by jeannine on Apr 12, 2007 1:19:00 GMT -5
This will be my third yr with O/P varieties, so far I've never had this much fun growing maters in all the years I've done this, and I'm not telling how many that is ya all will have to figure it out on your own ! So far I've got growing: Dr. Wyche's yellow Pink Accordian Cherokee Purple Purple Calabash Roma-most likely hybred variety, saved from my bumper crop last year Brown Berry In the Works as time and space on my growing shelves permits: Aunt Ruby's German Green Dad's Sunset Giant Belgium Flame/Hillbilly Mr. Stripey-I actually have 2 plants that were wintered over in the living room but, we just loved these that I will have to have more than 2 to get me through the season! I also will have a few others, though I don't know exactly what DD picked out and has growing for her own piece of dirt, gosh that kid is great! Jeannine
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Post by johno on May 6, 2007 4:12:01 GMT -5
Well, Wild Chiapas and Goose Creek were my two failures. The rest of them are in the ground and happy - about 60 plants. Of course, that doesn't count the Doc hybrids or the other 18+ varieties I have started indoors right now. I'll use them for replacements and for a later planting. I'll have 6 or 7 main beds full of tomatoes, plus 3 with cherry tomatoes.
I had planned on growing 4 of each variety, but ended up with only 2 or 3 good ones of some, and only one Sweetie cherry tomato made it. I'd say I'm averaging about three of each.
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Post by downinmyback on May 8, 2007 21:53:13 GMT -5
This is the final count of tomatoes for this year unless i squeeze another few in Old Brooks Stupice Mule Team Mr Striped Burrector Favorite Aunt Gertie Gold Arkansas Traveler Purple Passion Old Virginia Mexico Cherokee Purple Mortgage Lifter Mrs Martha Italian Red Barn Zogola Stump of the World Cherokee Green Earl Faux Mr Bruno Little Lucky Boxcar Willie Grub Mystery Green Kellogg Breakfast. Tommy Toe Yellow Pear Peace vine Cherry Brown Berry Roma Amish Paste Pink Brandywine Andrew Rahart’s Jumbo Red I have over 80 tomato plants and i would have to enlarge mr garden or take out some other vegetables if i try to plant more.
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Post by johno on Jun 19, 2007 16:30:08 GMT -5
Well, tomatoes are like crack for me, I guess. I now have over 40 varieties planted - I just don't know when to quit...
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Jun 19, 2007 16:47:43 GMT -5
I'd grow more tomata's if I didn't need room for all the varieties of squash I've got...Not sure if I had to make a choice between squash and tomatoes which I would pick??
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