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Post by mnjrutherford on Oct 17, 2009 17:19:31 GMT -5
I'm not familiar with the phrase "mangetout". Google gives me a definition of "a vegetable meant to be eaten at an immature stage". If you agree with this, I would be interested in trying out a few, maybe 6 seed. I have issues growing peas that I hope to have addressed by next spring but just in case, I don't want to waste a lot of seed like I did this year.
I'm also interested in finding a pea that would be good dried and prepared as split pea soup. I'm also wondering if those of you from the UK could give me some idea of what "mushy peas" and "pease porridge" is/are. How is it prepared, basic ingredients, etc. I'm very interested in possibly learning to prepare them.
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Post by mybighair on Oct 17, 2009 18:34:30 GMT -5
Sorry, I forget to give the US translations at times. You'd most likely know "mangetout" as "snow peas". ‘Biskopens gråært’ may cover you as a soup pea as it's an old field pea that was traditionally dried for winter use. They produce their own gravy when soaked and boiled. Not sure how you would go about splitting them though. As for mushy peas; I suppose it's a very thick pea soup, similar in consistency to loose mashed potato. It's made from dried peas called marrowfat peas (a type of field pea). They are soaked in water with a little bicarbonate of soda and then boiled. Not entirely sure but I suspect that peas porridge is pretty much the same thing. The link below will take you to a mushy peas recipe. www.wight.co.uk/food/recipes.99/11.99/ |
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Post by mybighair on Oct 17, 2009 18:47:51 GMT -5
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Post by mnjrutherford on Oct 17, 2009 18:57:03 GMT -5
Awesome! Thank you so much for that info and the links. I'll have to follow up on them later. It's cooking time and I've turned my hand to making English muffins today. I'm using them for hamburgers... Nothing whatsoever to do with peas... Don't suppose you have any marrow peas as well?
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Post by mybighair on Oct 17, 2009 23:36:45 GMT -5
I don't have any marrowfat peas, and to be honest I cant think of any seed suppliers that sell them. People don't really grow them these days.
Having said that I may be able to find a box of the at the local supermarket. They are just dried peas so they should grow, and I know that some of our older plot holders at the allotment have grown peas from supermarket marrowfat's in the past.
I'll see what I can do.
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Post by bunkie on Oct 20, 2009 13:06:10 GMT -5
graham, if you have some left, i would appreciate some seed. do you need my address?
i know a little French, and thought 'mangetout' meant eat all, thinking of the snow pea as you mentioned! ;D
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Post by mybighair on Oct 23, 2009 5:52:17 GMT -5
Hi Bunkie,
Yes, could you send me your address please. I now I have it somewhere but cant find it.
You could be right on the translation from French but I couldn't say. Maybe Michele will step in and tell us.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Oct 23, 2009 9:10:48 GMT -5
Thank you so much Graham! I certainly appreciate it. My dad will be impressed that after having read the nursery rhythm several million times to me as a child, I will have the real thing. ;o)
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Post by orflo on Oct 23, 2009 9:15:09 GMT -5
Bunkie is right : mangetout means eat all, it comes from the verb 'manger' which means eat and 'tout' means all. In France and even over here in the Flemmish part of Belgium this is still the word that's used for these 'snow peas', even though a Flemmish word for it exists: peultjes
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Post by canadamike on Oct 23, 2009 14:05:33 GMT -5
1 PI 210650 - Pisum sativum - IMPROVED SUGAR MARROWFAT - Iowa, United States -- rank: 1000 ... Donated from: Iowa, United States (Comment: A collection of pea varieties from the University of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin ... at second site. Accession names and identifiers IMPROVED SUGAR MARROWFAT Idtype: UNVERIFIED. G 1977 Idtype: SITE. Group: GENEVA ... States. Donors: USDA, ARS, NCRPIS. Comment: A collection of pea varieties from the University of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin ... common to the Pacfic Northwest as hosts for the pea cyst nematode, Heterodera goettingiana.. Journal of Nematology 31 ... www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/acchtml.pl?1174818 - 3001 bytes - 2 PI 206868 - Pisum sativum - WONDER MARROWFAT - Wisconsin, United States -- rank: 945 PI 206868 Pisum sativum L. FABACEAE 'WONDER MARROWFAT' Developed in: Wisconsin, United States (Comment: Plants growning at the ... up at second site. Accession names and identifiers WONDER MARROWFAT Idtype: CULTIVAR. S-796 Idtype: DONOR. Cooperator: Shoemaker ... common to the Pacfic Northwest as hosts for the pea cyst nematode, Heterodera goettingiana.. Journal of Nematology 31 ... K. Malvick and James A. Percich. 1999. Screening of Pea Plant Introduction Collection for Resistance to Aphanomyces Root ... www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/acchtml.pl?1173262 - 3613 bytes - |
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Post by mnjrutherford on Oct 23, 2009 16:38:14 GMT -5
haHA! Graham, I'm going to go ahead and request these from GRIN as well. Are you interested in having some?
My thinking here is that having 3 varieties (ASSUMING I get what I'm asking for from GRIN) I can "diddle" the pollen and increase the genetic variety? That's a good thing right?
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Post by mnjrutherford on Oct 23, 2009 16:39:47 GMT -5
Thanks for the input Michel! With all those WOW photos, I'm surprised you even noticed me!?!?! ;D Wow... WHAT photos!   |
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Post by grunt on Oct 23, 2009 21:20:25 GMT -5
I saw Ne Plus Ultra listed as a marrowfat by one of the English seed companies, but can't remember which one.
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Post by Owen on Oct 24, 2009 14:30:50 GMT -5
Well I'm sold on those peas, there's a PM on it's way!
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Post by ianpearson on Feb 28, 2011 8:02:23 GMT -5
I'd like to resurrect this thread, as I'll be growing Biskopens Graat this year.
Does anyone now have any more information about it? Height, time to maturity etc?
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