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Post by bluelacedredhead on Apr 25, 2007 19:39:35 GMT -5
Got some!! I couldn't believe that they had it. And it worked out to a $1 a lb... Now I can test this theory too! TY
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Post by jeannine on Apr 26, 2007 0:50:32 GMT -5
Sounds like the Tums would be a good experiment as well! I wont be trying it but would surely like to hear how it works for those of you that do. I have more than enough milk around here to spare that I can and did 'water' on occasion with it last year.
Glad you found some ES Blue! Now if I can find some DE reasonable we'll both be in bizness!
Jeannine
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Post by houseodessey on Apr 26, 2007 18:02:43 GMT -5
I put out (or, rather, moved) 11 Cherokee purples using the tums/es method just now. Hopefully it will go well.
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Post by johno on Apr 27, 2007 18:22:31 GMT -5
Tums... That's a great idea!
So, I know there were some "abstain" votes... but I must say that I'm surprised that "trench" is trailing. I certainly think it's easier to drop them into a hole (posthole diggers...) I guess the "vertical hole" method works out fine. Maybe I'll try both side by side?...
Does anyone drop any other little goodies into the planting hole, like multivitamins, for example? Anybody trying cornmeal this year? Sugar for nematodes?
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Post by mbrown on Apr 30, 2007 11:23:38 GMT -5
Put out most of my tomatoes yesterday. Used vertical holes with some Epsom salt and slow release fertilizer mixed with the soil.
Mike
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Post by downinmyback on May 3, 2007 20:29:46 GMT -5
I have used both methods but i prefer holes just because that was how i was taught when i was a kid.
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Post by lavandulagirl on May 8, 2007 12:27:37 GMT -5
momentary hijack, since we've already discussed epsom salts here... do you use them for other plants in the solanum family? Just thinking of my eggplants, and giving them a fighting chance.... I haven't bothered before, but could side dress them now while they're young.
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Post by brook on May 8, 2007 14:02:37 GMT -5
I shouldn't hurt anything, and might help. So why not give it a try? Maybe do a trail by amending half with the emsom salts and half without and see what happens.
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Post by johno on Jan 17, 2008 20:28:55 GMT -5
This thread is probably a bit premature for bumping up this year, but I thought it might help get us all jazzed for thinking about spring.
Also, there are lots of new members since then, and I'd like to get your input! I noticed in particular that paquebot had a lot to say about trench vs. hole on another forum.
This was the thread starter: Trenching supposedly keeps the stem and roots in warmer soil, but many people plant in holes with good results. Which is better?
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Post by jtcm05 on Jan 17, 2008 21:00:44 GMT -5
I think it is mostly dependent on how leggy the transplants are.
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Jan 17, 2008 21:33:39 GMT -5
Funny you should bump this up although not for the planting technique you were thinking of Johno. Yesterday, there was a very tasty looking recipe for Eggplant Parmigiana in the local paper which sparked a discussion about growing eggplant amongst a couple of us at the store. I mentioned how I had used Epsom Salts in 2007 and felt it made a vast improvement in the growth of sweet peppers at our place. And how I will continue to use it for container grown eggplant as well as the tomatoes and peppers from now on. BTW, I used it at transplant, at flowering, at fruit set and once after is all. Just a TBSP per gallon of water and used it to water as usual.
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Post by moonlilyhead on Jan 17, 2008 22:29:51 GMT -5
We always use holes, so as to bury the plant up to her neck to get a strong root base. We've had such a problem with wilt thought, that last year we used five gallon buckets with foreign soil. That wilt is wicked! And, we forgot to wash our tools, so we spread it from the garden to the new area we had tilled in hopes to not have it anymore.
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Post by Alan on Jan 18, 2008 19:38:48 GMT -5
Depending on the age and height of the plants and the numbers that I am planting at any one given time determines how I will plant the tomatoes. For the most part we use an old water wheel tobacco setter which does a good job but I have also used an old potato plow to lay off a row (not just for tomatoes but other plants as well) layed the plants down and to one side of the trench and then used a rake to pull the dirt up high around the stem. If I'm not planting a lot of them I use an old hand tobacco transplanter that does quite well with planting in loose tilled soils.
I've had pretty good success with both methods, we almost always fertilize with cow manure months before planting, but this year I'll be doing a lot of individual planting in holes with Vermicompost just to gage the effeccts. Of course the success of transplanting has a lot to do with weather, plant health, fertilization and as always if you have a good rain for a day or two after planting or if you can water the plants in pretty well.
-Alan
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Post by grungy on Jan 18, 2008 20:52:18 GMT -5
We have done both - depends on the size of the root ball and the type of soil. Large root ball or clay soil - trench. Smaller root ball, sandier soil - hole. Makes this clear as mud, doesn't it? But sometimes one thing works better than the other.
val
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Post by sandbar on Jan 20, 2008 0:59:16 GMT -5
Thanks for bumping this thread up, Johno. Interesting reading.
What were folk's results last year? I noticed Blue mentioned she had positive results.
I've always planted in a deep, vertical hole thinking that a deeper root system would help them through the dry part of the summer. I *rarely* ever water. I think I watered once or twice last year at the very beginning of the season because we had an early, two week long, hot, dry spell just when I put out the transplants. That was the first time I had watered in a couple of years.
I know many folks aren't fans of plastic mulch, but wouldn't applying plastic mulch to the ground a couple of weeks before transplant (and, then transplanting through the plastic mulch) be a tremendous benefit towards preventing BER? I'm thinking this would be a great benefit since cold soil seems to be the overriding problem regardless of whatever nutrients are present.
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