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Post by plantsnobin on Jul 20, 2009 20:52:55 GMT -5
Came across a link on the pfaf site, wondering if anyone has heard of them or ordered? The website is www.ancientcerealgrains.orgLooked like some good info. |
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Post by canadamike on Jul 20, 2009 20:54:48 GMT -5
I wanted to order but they don't ship in Canada. Very interesting material. I would love to see some of these people here, they are passionate.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Jul 20, 2009 21:42:13 GMT -5
KAREN! You are AMAZING! I've been trying to source Emmers Black for gads... 10 years now? Longer perhaps? These folks have it! All I need for my grains now is some Carolina Gold rice! I'll have my grains almost sewn up.
Michel, I'll be putting in an order for the Ancient Grains packet as well as the article on chia and probably a couple other brochure/booklets. If you want to place an order, feel free to use my address and I'll forward it to you. That goes for anyone else outside of the US. Send a PM your address and let me know that your order has been placed so I'll have a heads up.
With Tim's rye and these wheats, I'll be baking some of the most fabulous breads ever! YIPEE!!
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Post by silverseeds on Jul 20, 2009 22:21:38 GMT -5
wow great stuff!!! Im going to try to get the money together for the "everything you got" package, which gives you one packet of everything 58 varieies, os grains. Im amazed, Im sure some of this much diversity should do okay here.......surely something...lol Its 159 plus shipping though.... still less then 3 bucks a pack and for this type or rarity seems worth it to me..... Now how to convince the wife?  lol |
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Post by canadamike on Jul 20, 2009 23:39:51 GMT -5
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Post by silverseeds on Jul 21, 2009 0:01:40 GMT -5
oh gee thanks michel another great site with various grains I should try, Im so thrilled, lol. Im going to have to sell a kidney, for next springs seeds, lol. I have that as a side mission finding easy to grow grains, and I find seed descriptions totally off, in my conditions anyway. So for me I never know till I try it. So I have to try em all.
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Post by canadamike on Jul 21, 2009 0:06:59 GMT -5
Jim's grain are good in an arid climate. It should fit you like a glove.
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Post by silverseeds on Jul 21, 2009 0:15:31 GMT -5
Is jims grain on the link you gave I didnt see it? They do have 2 things that sounded interesting to me though, a fast and heavy setting amaranth and a grain called dwarf indian. where can I get this jims grain?
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Post by mnjrutherford on Jul 21, 2009 19:49:59 GMT -5
Hey, Michel, I'm willing to bet .25 cents that they were not carrying the Emmer Black when I was looking a few years ago! =o) Regardless, it's great to actually, FINALLY find it not in just one place but TWO! When will industrial hemp be hitting the web?
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Post by Alan on Jul 22, 2009 16:39:49 GMT -5
Yep, I used Kusa this past spring and posted a link here somewhere, good quality seed, small samples but worth it for some very rare diversity, I grew a few varieties from them plus Red Fife from Michael via PR Seeds.
Believe it or not, guess what grew the best of all this year though.....
An Iraqi genepool previously stored at ABU GHIRAB!
I probably won't have enough to release this fall, but next year indeed!
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Post by silverseeds on Jul 24, 2009 0:53:38 GMT -5
I was looking closer at the KUSA site, and did you see the story associated with the miracle seeds barley offer. a man from india used breeding technics to make barleys that grow on drylands with little irrigaion, even with salt, and alkaline issues. some with a high lysine content. these few remain because the guy who made hem sent them to KUSA the rest were destroyed by the powers that be. Now what reason would there be in a country with hundreds of millions of hungry peoply to destroy grains such as these?
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Post by mnjrutherford on Jul 24, 2009 7:46:34 GMT -5
What makes you think they need a reason? Further, why would they need a "good" reason? Of course that presumes that you and they maintain the same definition of "good". It certainly gives one reason to pause and reflect.
For my part, it makes me believe even more in the value and importance of what is being done here because "the powers that be" are ultimately in the hands of those who create power, whether for good or ill. Imagine, should we get enough seed just between us here to share and grow out next year and the year after just in case something happens to next years crop. And after that there are still, say, a couple pounds or more leftover seed. Then, we package that seed up and send it to Afghanistan NOT through normal channels, but with... say... a soldier that we (read me as I do know one) being deployed. Then, that soldier put the seed into the hands of say, the village schmuck rather than a village elder... How long do you suppose it would take for the village schmucks to be growing food rather than opium and thus putting an end to the nonsense?
I recently saw a video of a village leader saying how they need food to stop growing opium. While I wonder, gee, if you can grow opium, why can't you grow other things? Are poppies really so very hardy that they will grow where nothing else will? I could be really wrong because I am ignorant about such things, but it does make me pause and ponder.
Of course my scenario was Afghanistan and you are talking India... well, lets just say that India is "entangled" with big money. Big money doesn't care about starvation.
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Post by bunkie on Jul 24, 2009 10:07:52 GMT -5
right on jo, like the 22,000 plus Indian farmers who committed suicide...so sad....
alan, that's awesome about the Iraq grain!
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lol
