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Post by Alan on Dec 12, 2007 11:14:18 GMT -5
I agree with both of you, but unfortunately I seriously have heard that complaint a hundred times and probably more and once some one is convinced of that statement (which was orginally made by a competing market gardener to my customers) then they believe it even if they have never tasted it. Trust me, market customers can be really picky.
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Post by Jim on Dec 12, 2007 12:11:22 GMT -5
It's funny...I wonder if my green sausage will taste like green sausage..lol...you could just tell them that it is an unamed red tomato.
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Post by kctomato on Dec 12, 2007 13:50:03 GMT -5
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Post by Alan on Dec 12, 2007 14:19:08 GMT -5
That sure is a pretty one.
In further news I know I might have come off sounding like a tomato snob in this thread, but trust me I'm not, I don't even eat tomatoes, i'm just looking for something that will do well at market and as bedding plants that I can save seed from to further my path towards self-sustainability. I suppose it's part of my obsession with turning this farm into a completly self-sustainable (minus gas and plastic) market farm with very little having to be bought from outside the farm (trades are great, I love to trade!) while at the same time delivering to my customers a premium product which I can stand behind without having to stretch the truth of the matter out of proportion.
I know, im weird.
-Alan
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Post by kctomato on Dec 12, 2007 15:09:00 GMT -5
I took my segregates to the market once hoping people could help me pick out better flavored ones.
Well that was useless (other than the fact I ended up selling and making a good profit).
I went to the store and got a picked green/gassed red tomato and set it out for comparison with ones that were clearly better. After awhile I began to sense people weren't telling me what they really thought. SO I switched and told people the gassed green one was the "heirloom" and that is what they would pick as "best".
People didn't want to be "different" and were only telling me what they had been "told was good" and/or I suspect they only told me what they thought I wanted to hear instead of clearly speaking their mind. I think this is why you heard that "tastes like campbell's" comment.
To me, that is weird.
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Post by Alan on Dec 12, 2007 16:21:38 GMT -5
I agree it is weird, but people are totally that misled at times and all it took was one guy saying that at my table while I had a crowd and my inability to lie to someone when they ask what variety that red tomato on the table is and then so much for selling very many Campbells 1327 tomatoes regardless of the fact that I think personally (along with some other devotees) that it is a timeless classic.
-Alan
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Post by Jim on Dec 12, 2007 17:42:53 GMT -5
The inability to lie is not a bad thing. People are weird though. I think you'll find that the younger people wont be as weird about buying heirlooms. This whole generation of emeril/rachael ray/iron chef foodies are going to love the variety of heirlooms and hbrids.
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Post by bluelytes on Dec 12, 2007 19:54:56 GMT -5
DOWN,
How BIG does Mr. Bruno get, and what is the texture like?
Regards;
bluelytes@yahoo.com
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Post by downinmyback on Dec 12, 2007 20:28:16 GMT -5
bluelytes here is a link to a picture that Mr Benson took of Mr Bruno. forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/tomato/msg0221484413320.html?58 Mine were about 2/3 the size of his but i planted late in a sorry clay that had not been enriched with anything and we had the worst drought in my 50 years. ( we were over 20 inches behind). The only water they got was what i gave them. I can hardly wait til this year to see how good they do in a better area. You can also read where other people have raised this variety at that link. Jeff |
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Post by Alan on Dec 12, 2007 22:39:55 GMT -5
Can't wait to grow this one out Jeff, once again thanks for the seeds and for offering it up generously here on Homegrown Goodness.
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Post by downinmyback on Dec 18, 2007 21:45:46 GMT -5
Has anyone grown Lenny and Grace's Kentucky Heirloom .. Is this a good tasting and how pro-ducted was it. Did it show any drought or disease resistance. I Google it and i saw it was consider a sweet variety and kinda late in their garden. Any first hand info would be helpful.
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Post by mantis on Dec 18, 2007 21:56:36 GMT -5
Most of the tomato plants sold down here give good crops of round red tomatoes.
Grosse Lisse
Apollo
College Challenger
Mighty Red
To name the most popular in our area. College Challenger are very productive and give 10-12oz round reds
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Post by doccat5 on Dec 20, 2007 11:40:59 GMT -5
Do not like the Rutgers as well as the Beefsteak varieties. It's probably just a matter of personal taste, but the BS types can better and frankly taste better.
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Post by Earl on Dec 21, 2007 9:05:46 GMT -5
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Post by canadamike on Dec 24, 2007 4:45:43 GMT -5
There are so many Campbell varieties, all of course with those very easy 4 numbers to remember that i don't know what we are talking about. According to Bill, Big Beef should procuce well in your area. It does wonders here, and the taste is to kill for. Stokes sell them. They are very productive and disease resistant.
But I would also not put all my eggs in the same basket and follow Bill's advice ( I like that guy! ) and order some determinates. I ordered some bush beefsteak tomatoes, it will be a first for me, but with the climate change, and the nasty summers we now get ( in can be very hot even here, we have 5-10 days per summer where its is warmer here than in Florida) and it is ALWAYS VERY HUMID WHEN IT IS HOT. We have no sea. but there are hundreds of thousands of lakes and river around. , I feel pretty sure an early and concentrated fruit set will help me.
Apart from Romas and a couple of patio plants, I have always grown indeterminates. This reality is now a thing of the past, and the determinate/indeterminate combo will now be part of my arsenal.
I would like to point out that the Province of Quebec has a great tomato breeding program, as the members of SSE can see while going through the book, it is up there with Rutgers University and a couple of celebrated places, and the BULK of their effort is concentrated around determinates.
And as opposed to a lot of pre-conceptions by the folks living with sun, snakes and scorpions, it is not only for short season purposes. and cold weather. It deals a lot with moisture, heath waves etc...and yes, colder nights in august and september...but they are or can be a reality anywhere in North America now with this fucked up climate, maybe not as much further south, but enough to kill a good year.
If I had to live on it, I would not take chances
Michel
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