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Post by canadamike on Aug 19, 2009 21:28:07 GMT -5
Keep on posting my friend, these fruit look soooo good.
How would yo udescribe the taste of the Kandi Sinap??? It's shape always interested me...
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Post by canadamike on Aug 19, 2009 21:37:48 GMT -5
keep them coming Gérard, they are beautiful fruits. How is Kandil Sinap tasting? I always loved the weird shape.
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Post by biorag on Aug 20, 2009 2:19:41 GMT -5
thank you Penny !  Val : ok, i'll choose the 6 better apples and 5 pears. -Calville rouge d'hiver (cultivated in 1628 by La lectier) -Rayotte de Nommay : the mice favourite ! -reine des reinettes .... I have to think for more ones.... Michel : Kandil sinap or "pomme bougie is sweet and juicy, I can send you a description very complete by mail (droits d'auteur oblige!) .... all that you want my friend ! The tree is erected almost vertical. I 'll take a picture of an old tree in my older orchard to show that. Everybody sing : "you can get everything you want in the biorag's orchard." Thank you for your support !  |
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Post by silverseeds on Aug 20, 2009 2:28:46 GMT -5
biorag, I have been researching apples and pears, and peaches. It seems many peaches can grow true to type from seed. I have heard people in two places online now say there is pears which can do that, have you ever heard of it? Also can you recomend a variety or two of very cold hardy apples or pears to me to start my own trees?
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Post by bunkie on Aug 20, 2009 8:50:16 GMT -5
beautiful pictures and fruit biorag.
silverseed, that's what i was interested in, the temperatures these apples and pears can handle. biorag, what is your climate like? we have snow come the end of October, November.
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Post by biorag on Aug 20, 2009 13:04:17 GMT -5
biorag, I have been researching apples and pears, and peaches. It seems many peaches can grow true to type from seed. I have heard people in two places online now say there is pears which can do that, have you ever heard of it? Also can you recomend a variety or two of very cold hardy apples or pears to me to start my own trees? Hi Silverseeds !  I heard the same thing about peaches at least "grosse mignonne". About apples and pears I don't know. Some like cox's orange could be self pollinated and maybe grow true to type ... i'm not sure at all !  "conference, william's for the pears. But it could be a great adventure to obtain a new variety. You ever know the mother. I can send you seeds if you want. I continue the researches. Selection in my opinion : Apples : "Belle fille de Salins", "Court-pendu gris" Pears : Conférence, "Sucrée de Montluçon" |
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Post by biorag on Aug 20, 2009 13:21:22 GMT -5
beautiful pictures and fruit biorag. silverseed, that's what i was interested in, the temperatures these apples and pears can handle. biorag, what is your climate like? we have snow come the end of October, November. Thank you Bunkie ! In my country, we could have frosts after middle may and in october, but we had many years without late frosts. This year we even ate apricots ! Some trees of my orchard come from "Franche-Comté" and Jura where the temperatures could go down to - 25°C and rarely -30°C, but same remark, we don't know that since several years. Some pears adapted in mountain above 600 m Beurré Hardy, Doyenné du comice, Conférence, William's, Précoce de Trévoux, Sucrée de Montluçon..... Some apples for cold climate : Reinette d'Armorique, Belle fille de Salins, Sainte Germaine (=de l'estre), Rayotte de Nommay, Reine des reinettes, court-pendu gris... Apple trees are the base in our climate and I think I have a good selection. |
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Post by silverseeds on Aug 20, 2009 13:35:22 GMT -5
thanks biorag I appreciate the knowledge.
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Post by grungy on Aug 20, 2009 18:28:46 GMT -5
Biorag, could you save seeds from apples, pears and peaches for me. I think I would like to try and grow out some to see what we can get and like you said we would at least know the mother.
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Post by ottawagardener on Aug 20, 2009 19:55:36 GMT -5
Growing fruit trees from seed is a dream of mine. It would be great fun when one had a lot of land.
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Post by canadamike on Aug 20, 2009 21:03:54 GMT -5
Gérard, get in touch with me soon, we are finalizing the trip to France, if we don't meet you i'll suffer a nervous breakdown |
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Post by silverseeds on Aug 20, 2009 22:07:00 GMT -5
I just had a thought please someone correct me if I am way off. when you grow apples and pears from seed you never know what you going to get, but clearly all the good ones we have today sprung up this way.So if I grew a bunch out just to see what showed up I could graft on branches from a tree I know produces well, and it wouldnt be such a waste to grow out a bunch of trees that are not likely to produce. does this make sence? It seems to from what I so far understand of apples and pears. If this does make sence Id be extremely grateful to get some random apple and pear seeds, Id happily pay a little for them also. Would be better then saving them from store apples, because I know all the varieties of seed youd have both came from productive parents......
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Post by grungy on Aug 20, 2009 22:49:47 GMT -5
What I had in mind is to try the tree and see if we like the fruit it produced. However, if the apple is inferior, then I would use the tree as a graft tree and graft on scions of the varieties we liked plus those that would extend our genetic diversity.
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Post by silverseeds on Aug 20, 2009 23:24:59 GMT -5
grungy well I was thinking I could do both. I guess I didnt say it right. Because from what I seem to find, its rare to get a good one like that. But if I can just graft to it, theres no issue. Then when I find a good one, I wouldnt have to graft anything.
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Post by biorag on Aug 21, 2009 0:55:54 GMT -5
Ottawagardener, Grungy, Silverseeds : I can send seed naturally : october, november, the best I think.
I also have a self pollinated plum : "des Béjonnières". I save some seeds too.
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"conference, william's for the pears.
