Most Productive O/P Mater

[bluelacedredhead]

Tom, Down did that for everyone (sent LOTS). Either he truly believes in the qualities of this 'mater or he thinks we all need new friends. ;)Maybe both?? ;D

[downinmyback]

Yeah i believe in this tomato. Next year it may be a flop for me but this year it was a CHAMP.
I believe in giving a fair amount in trades (maybe too much but you never hear from anyone fussing about too much LOL).
I don't count amount of seeds unless i am getting short on that variety and usually just get a pinch of seeds and mail then with the person receiving deciding what to do with extra. I do not do sprounting tests but i had never had any trouble with that. All of my seeds are fermented but not bagged . As i said before anyone wanting some Mr Bruno seeds just send me a SASE.

[daylilydude]

WOW!! downinmyback i got the Mr. Bruno seeds today looks like i'll have to make some tomato buddies LOL. And THANK YOU so much for the seeds.

[downinmyback]

Daylilydude if you think i was generous with the seeds wait til you grow and taste the tomato. That will be when you think me LOL.Everyone needs a tomato buddy so i send enough for you to share LOL.

[Alan]

that's cause your a darn good guy down and a great friend too!

[grunt]

Daylilydude: Check out the seed offer albums at: www.picasaweb.google.com/tvgrunt and the seed lists at:
2006 seeds offer= tinyurl.com/3y7bkn
2007 seeds offer= tinyurl.com/3a4smu
We have harvested 45 lbs from Guido, and over 20 lbs from: SAN FRANCISCO FOG, MUCHAMIEL, RUSLAN, RHOADES HEIRLOOM, SLAVIC MASTERPIECE, TOP SIRLOIN, RUSSE, SUNSET RED HORIZON, and PALMIRA'S NORTHERN ITALIAN HEIRLOOM. See if there's anything on the lists that you would like.
Cheers
Dan

[jtcm05]

Hmmm.....Mortgage Lifter, Stump, Orange-1 are a few good ones for me.

[Earl]

Grunt...awesome webpages and documentation....a nice model for my community garden this spring.

So tell me...how you got those varieties...and why I never heard of most of those?

Are 2006 seeds available?

What are the HOOPS made from, PVC?

Like to give you a call sometime...PM me.

Earl/MI

[grunt]

Earl: You have a PM. I trade seeds all over the world, and many are local varieties in other countries. Seeds on both lists are available. The hoops are 75 psi pvc irrigation tubing.
Cheers
Dan

[sammyqc]

I think this year Reisentraube outperformed everything. Very productive, my dd loved them. Orange Jubilee (which may actually be misnamed - it is Jubilee but I can't find info on "orange" but I got the seeds from a very reliable seed saver/trader?? and it is orange) was also very good. But we had a weird summer weather/wise, and it was my first year trying all op/heirlooms (except for Sungold, which did horrible!!!)

[Alan]

Grunt is a great guy doing some great things with tomatoes and so forth and has a terrific garden and some really good ideas, he was also who gave me advice on setting up my picassa acount, blogger, g-mail, and google docs...and thanks again for that advice!

Sammy, I believe that Jubilee was originally introduced as "Golden Jubilee" though I am not 100% sure on that one.

[DarJones]

So what is the most productive OP tomato? Well that depends mostly on how they are cared for. If you put a normally low producing tomato in an optimum environment, you can get phenomenal production. Take Brandywine (sudduth) for example, and give it deep tilled, very fertile soil and it will amaze you with production. I've harvested 50 pounds per plant many times. It is still not the most productive OP variety.

What about Cherokee Purple? Well, now you may be onto something. Give it poor conditions and it produces a decent crop. Give it really good conditions and it will produce upward of 70 pounds per plant.

What about an early productive tomato? Stupice would be my argument for total production. They don't have that much flavor, but if raw tonnage is all you want, Stupice will bury you in fruit. Not as productive but with decent flavor, Kimberly would be my choice for an early.

So which varieties would I grow for outright PRODUCTION? Red Brandywine, Eva Purple Ball, Arkansas Traveller (or one of its offspring), Dr. Wyche for a good yellow, Heidi for a paste, Box Car Willie, Druzba, Lyuda's Mom's Red Ukraine, Rutgers, and Orangina. I could name a dozen more, but these are a start.

Now I have a question, which tomatoes would you grow for flavor?

Fusion

[sammyqc]

Grunt are you Grungy on Gw?? Your tomato list looks awfully familiar, and if so, I owe you a big thanks. Earl, I think you'll get everything from Grunt that you would have gotten from me (as that's where I started). Was looking forward to trying those mortgage lifters and neves azorean, but what I have is a smaller list, so you're better off taking up Grunt on the offer. Have to say, I think every seed came up, and I wasn't disapointed in any. Will try to keep the seeds going. Have lots saved, and encourage everyone I know to grow and do the same.

[Alan]

Fusionpower, while I myself don't eat tomatoes and have to go on the word of mouth of my market farm customers I'll do my best to answer what I have noticed and hear tale as good tasting tomatoes, some are commonly labeled good tasting by the heirloom tomato growing community while others are breeding experiments.

Cherokee Purple
Brandywine
Black Krim
Pineapple
Aunt Ruby's German Green
Jack White
Golden Jubilee
Rutgers
Better Boy
Mer De Noms
La Mer
Black Cherry

I agree, that the better the soil and the better the plants are cared for the better results regarding productivity that you are going to get. However, I also realize that being a market farmer that there is a line that has to be drawn when caring for plants and my theory is that in all truth and honesty all tomatoes really are (with a few poorly producing examples) is very tolerant and forgiving weeds with a desire to live and reproduce that is so strong it makes Audry II pale in comparison.

That said, I've had some really nice crops of Brandywine before that make some modern hybrids really look unproductive, but that was due to tender loving care....until this year when I did nothing to them and we had the driest year on record for 20 years or so and they still produced like crazy.

Hit or miss I suppose.

[grunt]

Sammy: No, I'm Grunt there too, I just don't usually post much anywhere but Tomatoland. Grungy is the other half of the equation. She starts them, I grow and pick them, and she processes the results and saves all of the seeds. You could call it a good division of labour, except it's too much fun to call labour. Go ahead and hit Earl up for the Neve's and Mortgage lifters. We are already sorta negotiating.
Cheers
Dan