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Post by mnjrutherford on Sept 15, 2009 7:47:27 GMT -5
Geez, I may be in over my head here then. I know a little bit about grafting, but I've never tried it. I realized that some things they were sending as "scion" based on the descriptions, but I thought I could put that in rooting tea then into dirt and it would root and grow from that. So how will I even know what kind of root to graft it on? As example, I'm getting nectarines and apricots. Neither are sold in nurseries around here.
1. Could I use a standard peach tree, cut off the branches and graft the nectarines and apricots on?
2. How many branches of the root stock plant can I replace?
3. Would I be able to put different fruit on a single tree? As example, apricots and nectarines?
4. What would I put an avocado on?
5. What would I put a nut on? (chestnuts, carya, and juglens)
On a whole different issue, it's making me a little crazy figuring out the common names for the scientific names. But I can already tell I'm learning a bit and it's great to know both nomenclatures for a whole lot of reasons. If you want to challenge yourself, this is a great place to start.
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Post by bunkie on Sept 15, 2009 8:50:04 GMT -5
....There is a terrific seed bank in Russia, ordering is a pain though and thus far none of us have had any luck............ what is the name of this seedbank in Russia alan? i have a step brother living over there and might be able to do something...maybe... |
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Post by toad on Sept 16, 2009 12:53:54 GMT -5
The Vavilov Institute in Sct. Petersburg seems to send out requested seeds only after their regrowth of the variety. As they regrow their varieties every five years, one need to be patient. One is likely to have forgotten ones request at the seeds arrival. But their system seems to work! Their homepage: www.vir.nw.ru/ |
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Post by mnjrutherford on Sept 16, 2009 18:30:27 GMT -5
POOP! That website doesn't like Firefox!  Thanks for posting it though!  |
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Post by Alan on Sept 17, 2009 22:10:05 GMT -5
Thanks for the link Toad, I will check out Valivov again soon! Geez, I may be in over my head here then. I know a little bit about grafting, but I've never tried it. I realized that some things they were sending as "scion" based on the descriptions, but I thought I could put that in rooting tea then into dirt and it would root and grow from that. So how will I even know what kind of root to graft it on? As example, I'm getting nectarines and apricots. Neither are sold in nurseries around here. 1. Could I use a standard peach tree, cut off the branches and graft the nectarines and apricots on? 2. How many branches of the root stock plant can I replace? 3. Would I be able to put different fruit on a single tree? As example, apricots and nectarines? 4. What would I put an avocado on? 5. What would I put a nut on? (chestnuts, carya, and juglens) On a whole different issue, it's making me a little crazy figuring out the common names for the scientific names. But I can already tell I'm learning a bit and it's great to know both nomenclatures for a whole lot of reasons. If you want to challenge yourself, this is a great place to start. You can use a standard peach for those practices, generally though your going to want a nematode resistant rootstock like neemguard which should be available from Raintree Nursery. With grafting scion wood your only going to want to make a single graft replacing the top of the tree with one variety as this will become your leader, when pruning your fruit trees you only want one "leader" unless you are chip budding or t-budding. I think but am not sure that you could use peach stock for apricot as well as nectarines. Nuts I'm not sure about, check raintree nursery, their list of rootstock should give you a good idea. I also know nothing of avocodo.. |
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Post by mnjrutherford on Sept 18, 2009 8:03:35 GMT -5
I've checked out the nursery and will probably get stock with them. I've also gotten a lot more data regarding the avocados and I'll be checking out a nursery about getting something from them rather than working on starting the trees myself. We are just a tad to cold for avocado even cold hardy ones. My thinking is that planting them in close proximity to the terra preta pit would make it doable. I've received a great pictorial *pdf for doing veneer grafts. How can I pass it on? Anyone even want it?
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Post by bunkie on Sept 18, 2009 8:49:32 GMT -5
i'm interested jo. ............... I think but am not sure that you could use peach stock for apricot as well as nectarines. ........./quote] alan, last year we got a nectarine tree that was on peach stock...the unusual harsh winter killed the nectarin graft, but the peach stock is growing nicely now... thanks for the link toad! |
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Post by mnjrutherford on Sept 18, 2009 10:04:42 GMT -5
PM me your "normal" email address Bunkie and I'll forward the email with the attachment as it was sent to me. According to the raintree website www.raintreenursery.com/catalog/producttype.cfm?producttype=ROOT (this page lists all their rootstocks) peaches, apricots, and nectarines can all be grafted to plums. That's what I'll be shooting for. Pretty cheap as well. Avocados... well, that isn't going to work out through GRIN. To much time and cost involved as we would need to acquire a phyitosanitary certificate. However, they did steer me to a nursery (with the caveat that it wasn't them that recommended it). I'll post a link later. I have offered to report on how it goes and IF successful, submit material for the repository. |
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Post by mnjrutherford on Sept 19, 2009 7:11:22 GMT -5
Yesterday's mail brought me the first "gift" from GRIN, 2 packets of Pisum sativum. One is called "Mattar" and is from Pakistan, the other is called "Rebel" and is from the US. I have to check into wether I can/should make a fall planting of peas in these parts. There are only 5 seed and if I can do a fall planting, I'll prolly only do 1 or 2 of the seed and save the rest for a spring planting. If I can plant them, I will check into compatibility with "tomato" dirt. Since the only lime fortified soil is in the tomato patch, that is where I want to put them. If you recall, I had dismal germination results in the patches I planted them the past spring and additionally, they did not grow vigorously and died quickly. Out of about half a pound of seed I got MAYbe a half a pound of food. Not a good return. IF I plant and IF they grow and fruit, I would be looking to save and distribute the seed. Seed saving tips are, as always, welcome!
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Post by mnjrutherford on Sept 22, 2009 20:52:58 GMT -5
Yesterday brought another packet of seed. This time it's Cucurbita pepo, "Swan White Table Queen". I'm kinda thinking this is a hybrid of Swan What and Table Queen acorn squash?
Anyway, I received 25 seed. I will use only 6 so I'll put up the rest in my catalog. Caveat: I would really appreciate you reporting to me so that I can pass results (and seed if possible) back to GRIN.
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