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Post by grunt on Nov 9, 2008 2:22:57 GMT -5
I would take it with a salt lick block sized grain. Can you imagine what it would be like to have the external effects internally? There are several plants that have an "adverse effect" when placed on the human skin, and the old "chestnut" about ingesting some form of it has been applied to all of them. While they are working on eliminating allergic reactions to many things by exposure to small amounts over a period of time, they are using microscopic measures of the allergen in the process, and I'm not sure that an allergic response can be equated with a physical response to a noxious chemical. It seems to me that that would be like saying you can make yourself immune to acid burns by ingesting small amounts of acid for some period of time. I'm not sure if it works as well for itching as it does for burn pain, but aloe vera is one thing I would try. There are numerous aloe vera lotions available for a reasonable price in any drugstore or cosmetics counter if your plant is toasted. Pick one that does the least amount of processing, or has the fewest added ingredients in it. Cheers Dan  |
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Post by Jim on Nov 9, 2008 11:58:40 GMT -5
I'm feeling better today. Less itchting and the redness is coming down. It;s the worst right before bed. I want to claw my skins off...and the wife wont let me anywhere near her..
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Post by kimikat on Jan 27, 2009 21:46:05 GMT -5
Just in case: I am not sensitive to poison ivy, so I can't vouch personnaly, but the old farmers around here ( it's a common plant) get in a draining ditch or a creek and cover their affected body parts with wet mud. The soil is clayish. They let it dry on them. They all say it works very well. At the very least, I would do it before going to buy stuff, apparently timing is important, and we rarely carry it on us. Works...I will definately attest to that. Did it while working on our broken waterlines...found a clean mud hole and went to town. |
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Post by macmex on Jan 29, 2009 4:07:33 GMT -5
Folks, I tried the technique of eating a small bud each day as the plants began to leaf out in spring, when I was a teen. I believe Ewell Gibbons wrote about it. Anyway, it didn't work for me. I got an itchy mouth.
George
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Post by Wrennie on Jan 29, 2009 9:13:55 GMT -5
I've heard of eating it too. Someone on another forum did it and had success. The first few doses he hid in bread or something so it wouldnt affect his mouth. It did tho affect the, uh, other end. Its a couple of weeks of doses before it kicks in.
My friend has goats eho eat P.I. She drinks their milk abd doesnt get P.I. (or sumac)
There is a product called Tecnu that is quite effective. If you wash with it right after you're exposed it gets rid of the bad oils. Or you can wash with it once a rash starts too. It is mostly de-odorized mineral spirits, so if you have that and don't mind the smell it may work in a pinch.
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oops, ok read back and see ya'll talked about tecnu. I love the stuff.
And yes you can get it when dormant (smack your boyfriend for me) When I was a kid I got P.I. from a christmas tree that was apparently growing near some in its field.
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Post by dogwoman on Feb 12, 2009 10:01:28 GMT -5
White vinegar will cut through poison oak oil and neutralize the irritant. If a person washes with vinegar after exposure to poison oak, it can prevent a reaction. Clothing should also be washed in vinegar because the oil becomes embedded in the fibers.
I once went picnicking with three friends to Angel Island in the San Francisco Bay. We had only brought a table cloth along, nobody thought to bring a blanket. We laid the food out on the table cloth and sat on the ground. A couple walked past us, then returned to ask why we were sitting in poison oak!?! The woman pointed at low growing leaves sprouting all round, and said those were newly emerging poison oak plants. We ended our picnic early and headed home to do vinegar washes and launder our clothing. None of us came down with rashes.
White vinegar can be dabbed on a poison oak rash. It helps to dry it out and soothes the itch.
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Post by spud on May 6, 2009 0:01:26 GMT -5
Hey that was me. I have gotten posion ivy really bad, so bad that it was weeping and the doctor wouldn't let me go to work cause I would be at high risk for a nasty skin infection. Desensitisation is not rock science, expose yourself to small amounts of the problem item and slowly increase over time. It's done with antibiotics for people who need a drug they are allergic to. Posion ivy has not caused me any internal rash in my mouth or any other internal digestive organ. Here is how I did it. First, day one, in the spring of the year, consume one small leaf. Day two, consume two small leaves. Continue increasing thru day five to five small leaves. Too maintain desensitisation, I would consume a couple of leaves twice a week throughout the summer. If you stop taking it you would likely have an allergic response again. I did not want to be broke out all summer so I tried not to skip. I did not attempt to find a perfect maintenence dose, but all I cared about was results. And the results were, if I washed off a contact area in an hour or two, I would not have any rash. If I didn't care and didn't wash right away, which was most of the time, I would have a minimal rash that didn't get worse, stayed small and didn't itch. It also healed quickly without any treatment. I could live with that, beat's going to the doctor for a dose pack of steroids and co pays on the visit and med. Remember, the allergin is in a much smaller dose in the spring than the summer so you are starting out with a very small dose, much different than wanting to start out in the summer with bigger leaves and higher doses of an allergen. As to the response of this is nut's cause we can't consume this posion. If goats eat it and it doesn't hurt them and we consume their milk and their posioned milk doesn't hurt us, maybe it's time to use a little common sense. Taking a PI pill is nothing more than letting someone else process the plant, put it in pill form and add a bunch of fillers and selling it to you. I'd rather get straight from the horses mouth so to speak than from a drug company. Treatment of PI is big business, there are alot of money spent steroids, creams, and office visits for drugs that cannot be taken over the counter. Guess what, I'm still allergic, I'm out pulling PI vines this spring, and I got a rash. There were no leaves on the vines so I couldn't start my regime. Now that there are leaves on the vines, I've started my regime with no adverse affects. I cannot stay away from the problem area cause it's the only spot I can cultivate mushrooms. I've heard of eating it too. Someone on another forum did it and had success. The first few doses he hid in bread or something so it wouldnt affect his mouth. It did tho affect the, uh, other end. Its a couple of weeks of doses before it kicks in. My friend has goats eho eat P.I. She drinks their milk abd doesnt get P.I. (or sumac) There is a product called Tecnu that is quite effective. If you wash with it right after you're exposed it gets rid of the bad oils. Or you can wash with it once a rash starts too. It is mostly de-odorized mineral spirits, so if you have that and don't mind the smell it may work in a pinch. **edited** oops, ok read back and see ya'll talked about tecnu. I love the stuff. And yes you can get it when dormant (smack your boyfriend for me) When I was a kid I got P.I. from a christmas tree that was apparently growing near some in its field. |
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Post by silverseeds on Jul 10, 2009 16:35:39 GMT -5
With poison ive use one of the old style bar soaps , like fels nafta, most stores have it, but it doesnt take up much space so you might have to look hard.
Ive heard from the older generations eating poison ivy worked. but that random person can be iin trouble from doing it. but the ones I talked to considered it worth the risk anyway.
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