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Post by castanea on Aug 13, 2009 22:45:39 GMT -5
Seeds are also sold on ebay. A couple of years ago some guy was selling seed from a very large fruited variety. Most of the ebay sellers seem to be aware that the seeds should not be allowed to dry out.
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Post by maricybele on Feb 17, 2010 1:50:10 GMT -5
Paw paw is good food supplement and natural therapy. I am trying trees, so we don't have to pay for the supplement. They are delicate, I planted 2 seedlings and they both got mowed over and they were 3 years old. I have the seed planted directly in the spot I want them in, hope it works. alternativecancer.us/pawpaw.htm |
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Post by darrellg on Nov 9, 2010 12:05:25 GMT -5
I never needed to scarify pawpaw seeds. The seeds I planted sprouted just fine. Granted the seeds need a warm soil to germinate, and it takes about 30 days or more before a shoot emerges. The last batch I overwintered dampened in a ziplock sandwich baggie in the refrigerator veggie crisper. When the weather got warmer I put the baggie in my car daily where they stayed warm (not too hot in early Spring)and then brought them in at night. Didn't bother planting the seeds until a root emerged.
Plant a grafted variety and you won't need a second tree to pollinate as the roots will send up fast growing suckers nearby which will be different genetically. The suckers can actually outgrow the main tree in my experience, or just keep it pruned to a single trunk.
In one case, roots escaping into the ground from a container seedling got severed when the container was moved. A new plant grew from the isolated root in the ground.
Too much direct sun can damage seedlings the first year or two as Pawpaw is an understory tree in the wild, so provide some protection. It readily adapts to being a yard tree in full sunlight, and the Fall color is almost a lemon yellow... very nice.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Nov 9, 2010 12:53:51 GMT -5
I'm in zone 8 and I have my seed in sterile (saphgnum moss/vermiticulite) medium in pots that are on the brick steps of my south facing porch. My home is shaped like a shoebox and there is vegetation in the corners created by the steps that afford the pots on the steps a tad bit of screen from a lot of wind. I keep the stuff out there watered on a regular basis. I have seedling mulberries out there (FOUND A NEW BABY JUST TODAY!) as well as oregano, sage, 6 different mints (also doing very nicely so far), thyme, and a couple of peach trees.
I'm guess that if being cold and moist through winter is adequate, I should be seeing sprouts come about April or May? May is when the real heat sets in.
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Post by bunkie on Nov 11, 2010 14:14:42 GMT -5
i got some paw paw seeds from ozarklady a bit ago. i have them in the fridge right now and will be putting a few in the ground and a few in pots in the greenhouse. here were her suggestions to me...
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Post by mnjrutherford on Nov 11, 2010 17:33:05 GMT -5
Oh man...  I spaced out on the tap root! Well, hmmm.... Think I should just plan on transplanting as soon as they pop up or should I put them in their homes? |
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Post by michaeljohnson on Nov 12, 2010 1:38:07 GMT -5
I think a lot of people who are trying to grow Paw Paw seeds for the fruit they produce-don't realise that in most cases you must have both male and female trees to be successful.
It is quite easy to sort the males from the females, males are usually tall and thin-several foot higher than the females and can reach up to 20 foot high but most are slightly less.
females are shorter squatter trees with more branches on the main trunk.
In Australia and Taiwan where the worlds very best types of paw paws are grown -fruiting takes place when the female trees are only nine months old,
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Post by mnjrutherford on Nov 12, 2010 7:51:10 GMT -5
hmmm... Now, I knew that you needed multiple varieties to achieve pollination, much like nuts. I didn't realize they required male and female. Thanks for proffering this data!
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Post by michaeljohnson on Nov 12, 2010 10:30:47 GMT -5
The males usually have tall single stems rather than branching ones, and have very little fruit on them (if any).
As far as I can remember one male tree can serve dozens of females in the same area, but like most Kiwi fruit you must have a male or two to complete the circle otherwise no fruit will form on the female trees.
In Australia the seeds are sown in compost -fresh, almost the same day as they are removed from the fruit, with the gell still round the seeds..
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Post by paulien on Nov 13, 2010 15:44:05 GMT -5
If anyone has some spare Paw Paw seeds, i'm very interested! Maybe we can make a trade? I have flowerseeds and seeds of unusual edibles as well. Just let me know what you are looking for.
With regards,
Paulien
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Post by castanea on Nov 13, 2010 19:52:02 GMT -5
I think a lot of people who are trying to grow Paw Paw seeds for the fruit they produce-don't realise that in most cases you must have both male and female trees to be successful. It is quite easy to sort the males from the females, males are usually tall and thin-several foot higher than the females and can reach up to 20 foot high but most are slightly less. females are shorter squatter trees with more branches on the main trunk. In Australia and Taiwan where the worlds very best types of paw paws are grown -fruiting takes place when the female trees are only nine months old, This discussion is not about papayas (carica papaya), which are called pawpaws in some parts of the world. This discussion is about the American fruit universally called pawpaws (asimina triloba) which do not have male and female trees. Pawpaws usually bare fruit very lightly or not at all unless pollenized by a genetically different tree. |
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Post by mnjrutherford on Nov 14, 2010 6:28:44 GMT -5
I think a lot of people who are trying to grow Paw Paw seeds for the fruit they produce-don't realise that in most cases you must have both male and female trees to be successful. It is quite easy to sort the males from the females, males are usually tall and thin-several foot higher than the females and can reach up to 20 foot high but most are slightly less. females are shorter squatter trees with more branches on the main trunk. In Australia and Taiwan where the worlds very best types of paw paws are grown -fruiting takes place when the female trees are only nine months old, This discussion is not about papayas (carica papaya), which are called pawpaws in some parts of the world. This discussion is about the American fruit universally called pawpaws (asimina triloba) which do not have male and female trees. Pawpaws usually bare fruit very lightly or not at all unless pollenized by a genetically different tree. Ah, ok... well, either way you need more than one tree. Tell me, is it possible to quantify "how much different" the plants genetic material has to be? Is it on a par with the way nut trees have to have different varieties releasing and accepting pollen in coordination with each other? I find the nut tree thing fascinating, but the whole process is so very complicated that I'm rather surprised they have survived to this age, let alone come into being in the first place. |
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Post by mnjrutherford on Nov 14, 2010 7:24:55 GMT -5
It might be a bit late for paw paw seed this year, there is always next year though! We have 2 small trees and a supply of new seed from OzarkLady. We have them in pots (I really should have direct planted them though) with sphagnum moss mixed 50/50 with vermiculite. I'll be posting when I see sprouts.
Hope you enjoy the forum. I have some very nice cotton seed I'm sharing this year and next year I'll have some garlic as well.
Do you happen to have access to daffodils or seed for large flowered carnations?
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Post by paulien on Nov 14, 2010 10:58:30 GMT -5
Hello Mnjrutherford, I think your reaction about Pawpaw seeds was for me? I'd love to try and grow this tree in Holland and i've pm-ed Ozarklady already. I hope someone will have fresh seeds this year, but otherwise it's for next year. I don't have large flowering carnations but can look for seeds in shops here. Daffodils are best planted through bulbs and Holland is ofcourse the country of abundancy when it comes to bulbs....  About The Pawpaw again and their taproot, i plant my seeds (the larger ones for certain) in rootrainers. They prevent roots to spriral along the pot and roots get airtrimmed by the system. Wich mostly prevent the roots being damaged cause when they feel to come to air they stop growing and will thicken a bit. You can easily take a look and see if the roots reached the end of the pot and transplant them. You can look for them on the internet, put in; ronaash and rootrainer. Ronaash is a Scottish company that distributes them, i guess to the U.S. too. |
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Post by heidihi on Nov 15, 2010 7:57:19 GMT -5
how long does it take to get from seed to a tree? do they self pollenate?
I would love to try these as I have eaten them and adore the flavor ..but have never seen them grow in my area?
if anyone has seeds or a cutting I would be so grateful to share anything I have as well
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I spaced out on the tap root! Well, hmmm....
