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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Aug 29, 2018 13:23:31 GMT -5
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Post by marc on Aug 29, 2018 14:05:05 GMT -5
Thanks for the link. I have written to various people over the years, but there's really two issues with current available hops:
1. People have been deliberately breeding hops for over 100 years, but it's primarily been focused on finding bitter hops with little flavour. I love the flavour and aroma of hops (generally citrus, stone fruits, tropical fruits, spice and/or pine) so would like to breed hops with stronger flavour and aroma.
2. Most of the strongest flavored hops are trade marked and unavailable to the public. Most people who are currently breeding hops are hoping to privatize their hops to cash in on growing beer trends so are reluctant to share resources or disclose information.
On a personal level, I'm against trademarking plants/life/etc. and I've always been impressed with the openness of people on this forum so I thought I'd see if anyone else was growing/breeding/interested in hops.
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Post by diane on Aug 29, 2018 17:47:49 GMT -5
My daughter has started growing several kinds of hops this year.
Where in B.C. are you?
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Post by marc on Aug 29, 2018 20:55:19 GMT -5
Right on. I'm in the Okanagan.
Where's she located?
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Post by diane on Aug 30, 2018 12:14:39 GMT -5
Golden hops are grown as an ornamental here. I wonder if they are male.
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Post by marc on Aug 30, 2018 12:46:33 GMT -5
Not sure. I've never heard of them, but they should be showing either a cone right now if they're female.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Aug 30, 2018 22:19:21 GMT -5
Golden hops are grown as an ornamental here. I wonder if they are male. Female hops have smooth leaf colored flowers. Male hops have big fuzzy white/yellow flowers. |
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Post by diane on Aug 31, 2018 11:33:25 GMT -5
Richters www.richters.com. in Ontario sells 23 named hop plants, including a couple bred in New Zealand. No male plants, so you'll have to provide that yourself if you want to hybridize. They don't ship out of Canada. |
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Post by marc on Aug 31, 2018 21:47:12 GMT -5
Yeah left field/crannog, greenfield gardens & richters seem to offer the most choices in Canada. In the US you can contact the USDA or try great lakes hops if the online homebrew store doesn't carry the rhizomes you're looking for.
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Post by lochaberbreeder on May 25, 2019 20:15:24 GMT -5
Richters www.richters.com. in Ontario sells 23 named hop plants, including a couple bred in New Zealand. No male plants, so you'll have to provide that yourself if you want to hybridize. They don't ship out of Canada.
Richters' sells seeds. If you want males, that's a great bet. I didn't get great germination with their seeds, but you really just need 1 male to germinate to kick things off.
We are a few Canadians doing small scale breeding of hops, though. I've got dozens of wild plants and crosses at home, including subspecies lupulus, lupuloides, neomexicanus, and pubescens. Some wild plants collected locally, some plants grown from seeds from wild populations (Canada, US, France, England, Albania), plus various cultivar crosses.
I've got most wild seeds from the USDA.
I'm not aware of any male cultivar sold by any retailer. It's pretty much necessary to grow your own. Given 6-8 weeks of stratification, hops grow rather well from seed, and should flower by their second year at most.
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