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Post by toad on Jan 14, 2010 15:35:01 GMT -5
Just a warning.
European Ramsons (Allium ursinum) er highly invasive where it likes to grow. It's a potential problem. I've seen gardens in northern europe, where hard weeding gardeners was unable to kill it off.
But taste is great. I pick it in the nearby wood, where it grows naturally.
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Post by canadamike on Jan 16, 2010 21:29:38 GMT -5
Are they slow growers like our own ramps?
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Post by bunkie on Jan 17, 2010 15:54:30 GMT -5
patrick, how can i get an english translation to the page you posted?
by the pics you posted, i'm thinking they're leaves, not long stems like garlic scapes. right?
i've heard of them as wild leeks, not ramps. haven't seen any around here.
woods, welcome to the forum. i pmed you! thanks for the generous offer. we have a small wooded area with a creek between our fields that would be perfect for them to grow.
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Post by mjc on Jan 17, 2010 17:30:41 GMT -5
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Post by ceara on Jan 18, 2010 23:50:52 GMT -5
I have been looking for someone to ship me a live clump for about three years now so I can get ramps going here. No luck so far.
On our 100 acres, most of it is woods. I feel Ramps would be happy to live here, although my location is out of the natural range. I tried to get Montreal's BioDome to send some to me but they said since we were out of the natural range they would not send any.
But I do hear in Quebec that once in a while they will catch someone over-harvesting the ramps, then confiscate the plant material, and give it to someone who will replant it, usually on private land to prevent over picking.
I lived in the state of Pennsylvania for a while before moving to Quebec, and there I was introduced to the ramp for the first time. And nothing else since can even come close. You got to be a true onion family lover to appreciate ramps. They stink, but boy are they ever tasty. And it's fun in an area where they make a spring tonic of sorts with it, usually in the form of leek/potato/ham soup, or leek cheese dip. *drool*
I had some seeds from Gardens North but none ever germinated. Maybe I should have just tossed them out in the woods to do their thing.
Anyhoo if someone happens to come across a live clump in Canada this spring, I'll pay for postage to get it sent here.
Bah now I'm hungry imagining ramps in an omelet. *cry*
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Post by canadamike on Jan 19, 2010 16:06:20 GMT -5
Is your bush something that looks like a maple stand or is it coniferous?
I doubt it would grow well in a coniferous forest, might be too acidic.
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Post by wood on Jan 19, 2010 23:33:21 GMT -5
Bunkie, MJC, Pugs, and Patrick
Your seeds are in the mail.
Yes Patrick just put them in the freezer.
Wood
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Post by paquebot on Jan 20, 2010 0:13:30 GMT -5
I'm hoping to have a few hundred more ramps coming up in the spring. Always had a few competing with everything else in a large wildflower garden but expansion has amounted to only 1 or 2 new plants per year for 40 years. Received a box of several hundred from a friend in far north Wisconsin last spring and hopefully planted them in ground which is suitable for them.
What I have found is that their growing conditions greatly determine their growth and that we can't duplicate whatever it is. When found around here, they are single specimens which are often the only ones within sight. In a friend's woods in Jackson County, they grow in small clumps separated by 8 to 10 feet or more. Those received from Lac Du Flambeau Reservation in Vilas County were in clumps of 30-40 plants. Location, location, location!
Martin
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Post by DiggingDogFarm on Jan 20, 2010 8:17:03 GMT -5
I must have the perfect location here because my tiny woods of about 4 acres is literally infested with ramps...easily 2 1/2 to 3 acres is totally covered in spring!
Predominately Maple and White Ash sloping slightly to the south.
I also have some Bear's Garlic (Allium Ursinum) planted that's doing quite well.
~DiggingDog
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Post by ottawagardener on Jan 20, 2010 8:46:31 GMT -5
Lucky you! I've heard that they can form very large colonies though I've only seen them in small clumps.
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Post by mjc on Jan 20, 2010 11:23:04 GMT -5
I'll put up some pics a little later this spring, of the view across the fence...my neighbor's place is literally carpeted with them.
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Post by canadamike on Jan 20, 2010 11:26:15 GMT -5
Ottawa, the Vankleek Hill area is covered by ramps, you can smell it with the car window open sometimes.
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Post by canadamike on Jan 20, 2010 11:27:50 GMT -5
By the way diggingdog, welcome to the bunch, and if there is anything I can do for you just say it, it is a family here...
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Post by ottawagardener on Jan 20, 2010 16:03:15 GMT -5
You're going to get me to move to Vank-LEEK Hill yet.
Telsing
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Post by canadamike on Jan 20, 2010 19:42:54 GMT -5
well, you're such a babe, I would move to Antartica ;D ;D ;D
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