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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Aug 28, 2011 23:33:19 GMT -5
Thanks DarJones:
Sounds like a good strategy. I'll look into the Burpee seed. I've been using Precocious, Bodacious, and Silver King as my pollen donors.
The [Cherokee Squaw X Silver King] grew vigorously for me this summer. It's going on 10 feet tall, (competing with a wild amaranth that's just as tall). It's approaching fresh eating stage if it's not there already.
I am currently growing in three widely separated fields, so I have plenty of options regarding isolation and schedule.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Sept 14, 2011 23:05:35 GMT -5
One Astronomy Domine sweet corn plant that really grew well in my garden: That's four great cobs!!!! and one that was wanting for some pollen.  I love this stuff!!! |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Sept 17, 2011 17:27:24 GMT -5
So this spring I though I would sort Astronomy Domine sweet corn kernels by color and plant semi-isolated patches of them to try and get cobs of different colors, and then when I am sending out seeds I can put in so many percent of white kernels, and so many percent of gray, etc... Here are the results: Equal number of seeds planted for each patch... Some of them may not have germinated as well as others, or were attacked more by animals, etc. But it is what it is. The white kernels mostly produced white cobs: Don't ask me where that red cob came from... Although red was the color of the patch I planted just prior to white. I planted with my stick seeder, but it's still possible for a seed to get hung up if the soil is very damp.  The yellow kernels mostly produced yellow cobs: The orange cobs are yellow kernels with a blush of red on the surface.  The reds where not as consistently colored. The red color did not show up at the fresh eating stage, it only arrived later after the cobs were husked, and exposed to the elements and allowed to dry. These were very attractive to animals.  Approximately half of the gray seeds produced cobs with gray kernels. Pollination was spotty on these. I wonder if tasseling time was radically different than silking time for the grays?  About 1/3 of the lavender colored seeds produced cobs with lavender kernels.  For the maroon seeds it would be hard to tell by looking at them what color of seeds I started with:  Purples likewise produced lots of different colors of offspring.  |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Sept 17, 2011 17:43:52 GMT -5
Yesterday I harvested my Astronomy Domine patch of sweet corn for next year's seed. Here are the cobs that I saved... The ones on the right side of the photo that are highly colored, were marked at the early fresh eating stage because they were extremely colorful. The others were saved because they grew really well for me and/or were highly productive and/or had a trait that I want in next year's crop.  Some of the colored corn from the individual patches may also be folded into this population. |
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Post by raymondo on Sept 17, 2011 21:55:38 GMT -5
Beautiful looking corn Joseph. Looks like next year's crop will be a winner.
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Post by canadamike on Sept 17, 2011 22:15:52 GMT -5
For some reason, totally redears of corn pop up all the time in all most old corns I have grown, sweet or else, and I remember very well while in Périgord, France, Tom and I also saw that phenomenon in european landraces. I have contributed everything that Gaterslaben had in colored sweet corn to AD and there where red ones too, some entirely. Be kind enough not to ask for the names, none of us could pronounce them anyway  , apart from Orflo of course ;D |
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Post by DarJones on Sept 18, 2011 0:19:07 GMT -5
Mike, The NAMES! We want the NAMES!!!!! I'm picturing Mike with a distinctive french accent pronouncing Germanic gutterals. This evinces images of howling dogs and bubbling mud pits.  DarJones |
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Post by canadamike on Sept 18, 2011 10:45:13 GMT -5
I love you too ;D
Actually, some names were germans, nut most russian, like konservitnaya or else.
The sad thing about Gatersleben is they send you only 10 seeds or so, there is no way one can, unless very very lucky, build up a true population. I sus pect some form of genetic bottleneck showing up soon.
They sure do not given them in such small numbers because they grew too much...
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Post by Darth Slater on Sept 18, 2011 14:02:47 GMT -5
I have 7 ears of pure red cobs from Josephs sweet corn.
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Post by 12540dumont on Sept 20, 2011 23:45:55 GMT -5
Joseph,
Since I couldn't get to the show until Thursday, I missed all of the corn from the folks at Seed Dreams. However, she said e-mail her and she would put 200 + seeds in an envelope for you of whatever you are looking for. She was just sold out. They had a beautiful corn board up, and it sold the seed for her.
However, my friends at Native Seeds Search saved 4 packages of Guarijio Sweet corn for me. I'll send it along with the melons.
Holly
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Post by cortona on Sept 22, 2011 10:41:39 GMT -5
holly, your friends have some flour corn too?
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Post by 12540dumont on Sept 24, 2011 21:48:50 GMT -5
Cortona, Could I forget you? I picked you up some Tohon O'odham 60 Day flour corn for you. As corn is noisy and sounds like corn, I was just waiting for it to be near Christmas to mail it. You know the Italian Post Office is very difficult to slip anything by. I've been hunting foam and silent padding You can look it up at Native Seed Search. www.nativeseeds.org/index.php/store/26/2/0/seeds/cornmaize/flour-corn?limit=10&start=20Regards, Holly |
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Post by raymondo on Sept 25, 2011 7:01:57 GMT -5
If the packet isn't huge, seeds can be silenced by using sticking tape and taping them to a sheet of paper. Just a thought. I've used this method to send up to 50 noisy seeds.
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Post by cortona on Sept 25, 2011 7:13:09 GMT -5
thanks holly, i've recived this corn past year and i've put it in the mix this year, and this year a big part of the seeds come from cobs of this corn! it manage to produce good in thys freaky year that have hail, and drynes in sequence! wen cristhmas arrive if you can send me some of the deppe corn i wil try to grow some of it for polenta(wel, if i can arrange to grow the flour corn in a different place probably i wil use the space here to grow a flint tryal)
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Jan 17, 2012 22:24:53 GMT -5
I received a report last week about some Astronomy Domine sweet corn that I sent to Belize. It is doing well.
I also received a report from an agricultural research station in Malaysia about my open pollinated sugary enhanced sweet corn. (It shares some genetics with the earlier versions of Astronomy Domine.) It received it's entire dose of Growing Degree Days in about 50 calendar days. So the grower is very concerned that it grew up and went to seed on such scraggly little plants. They selfed the plants that grew best and intend to plant the offspring soon. I sent them F3 seed, so there is a lot of diversity to choose from. Such trauma... Moving sugary enhanced sweet corn from a northern high-altitude desert garden, to a high humidity garden at sea level on the equator.
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, apart from Orflo of course ;D
