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Post by castanea on Apr 23, 2011 22:27:04 GMT -5
Does anyone know of a seed source in the US for Australian sweet lupin?
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Post by atash on Apr 24, 2011 19:43:48 GMT -5
Check your PMs.
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Post by raymondo on Apr 24, 2011 20:52:51 GMT -5
I've never heard of it. I have a variety called Kiev, which is a sweet lupin.
Will you be growing it for food?
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Post by atash on Apr 24, 2011 22:19:23 GMT -5
I don't think Castanea is referring to a specific variety. There are at least 3 species of Sweet Lupine grown in Oz, mostly L. albus (the southeast) and L. angustifolius (the southwest), and several varieties of each of these developed locally. Australia has the world's largest production. www.lupins.org/Kiev Early is probably a good choice for your growing season Raymondo. L. angustifolius gives bigger yields but it needs a long growing season and it's the least frost-tolerant. |
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Post by castanea on Apr 25, 2011 1:06:27 GMT -5
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Post by mnjrutherford on Apr 25, 2011 6:47:01 GMT -5
Well I'll be darned. And here I was thinking they were nothing more than an extraordinarily lovely flower. The glycemic index data is interesting to me as well as the fact that its used as a flour. Can someone tell me about gluten content? I've developed a bread recipe with a fairly decent amount of oatmeal in it. But the lupin.org site claims that lupins can help curb appetite. That would be very important to me.
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Post by raymondo on Apr 25, 2011 18:02:50 GMT -5
Lupins, being legumes, don't have gluten. Only some lupins are suitable for general consumption, the so-called sweet lupins. Others can be used but need pretreatment to remove the poisonous alkaloids.
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Post by castanea on Apr 25, 2011 23:44:50 GMT -5
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Post by atash on Apr 26, 2011 12:46:29 GMT -5
Lupine seed is oddly low in carbohydrate--around 3%. But high in protein. So it makes a good additive to wheat products to balance out their protein, while adding some "white fiber". It's added to pastries and noodles in some countries. Drawback is that anyone who is allergic to peanuts is allergic to lupine, with the same risks. It could kill someone, and precisely because it is a low-key ingredient it tends not to be obvious. I'll probably raise Lupine in future years for sales, but the seeds will come with a big warning and disclaimer. It will take a while, though, to build up stocks and get them planted the right time of year (we keep running into scheduling problems...  ). One other risk is contamination of a crop through cross-pollination with bitter Lupines. Same species. Sweet Lupine is an artificially-bred crop, originating in Germany (where apparently it is no longer grown--production shifted to France and parts of eastern Europe) in the 1920s, through selection on a large scale. For that reason, some Australian sweet Lupines have atypical flower colors, to make the spotting of rogues easier. One other Lupine that hasn't been mentioned yet: Lupinus mutabilis. It's from South America. It's not typically a sweet lupine, but the natives leach the seeds just like Italians do Lupinis (Lupinus alba beans, eaten leached and salted as a party snack in parts of Italy). I've read of references to the existence of sweet forms; not sure if that is true or not, as some people mistakenly believe that all Lupine seeds used as food are sweet. That mistake has lead to a number of poisonings in Australia. If you bite into a Lupine product and it's bitter, spit it out and don't eat the rest. |
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Post by MikeH on Sept 23, 2011 20:22:46 GMT -5
Anyone got any sweet lupin seeds available? Don't need many as I'm willing to grow out.
Regards,
Mike
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Post by oxbowfarm on Sept 24, 2011 3:30:58 GMT -5
I know they are eaten in Portugal as well. My Portuguese mother in law buys them at the Portuguese groceries in Fall River, MA. Not sure if they are leached, cooked, and processed or sweet version of lupine. They definitely grew them in her childhood in the Azores.
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Post by raymondo on Sept 24, 2011 4:01:11 GMT -5
Lupins were served with drinks at aperitif time in France when I lived there. Not sure whether they were sweet lupins or not and I have no idea how they were processed.
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Post by 12540dumont on Sept 24, 2011 21:42:20 GMT -5
Atash, Can you let us know exactly when is the right time to plant them?
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Post by MikeH on Nov 3, 2011 14:17:50 GMT -5
I've never heard of it. I have a variety called Kiev, which is a sweet lupin. Will you be growing it for food?  Australian Sweet Lupin on the left and 'Altreier Kaffee' Lupinus pilosus on the right. Thank you, Raymondo. |
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Post by castanea on Nov 3, 2011 21:04:04 GMT -5
Where did you get Lupinus pilosus?
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