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Post by kazedwards on Aug 11, 2014 0:07:39 GMT -5
The black seeds then release easily and you can winnow out the chaff. TGS! Like all seed in the Alliaceae group i reckon its best to float off in water not only the chaff but also the immature and hollow seed,ya best seed sinks to the bottom, just gota have to make sure you dry it ..FAST Thanks for the tips richardw and philagardener. I appreciate it. About half of the seed pods are browning, but it has rained and rained so I think I will let them dry out more outside before I pick them. I don't want mildew after all. |
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Post by richardw on Aug 11, 2014 1:01:19 GMT -5
No worries Zach.
Here's question from me,two of TGS plants have been outside for the winter and have been about 20cm tall during that time,i was thinking that because they've had the cold needed would lifting the large pot that they are in into the tunnelhouse for 6 weeks or so kick start an early summer for them,would they grow a scape earlier that way??
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Aug 11, 2014 12:27:16 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, oxbowfarm reported that his garlic grown in a hoop-house flowered a couple weeks earlier than that grown outside. The ovaries are just starting to swell on the earliest flowering garlic in my garden. Holly originally sent the bulbils to me. This is their second growing season in my garden.  |
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Post by raymondo on Aug 11, 2014 16:31:55 GMT -5
Fantastic Joseph. Looks like there'll be plenty of seeds from that head. You must be building a reasonably diverse collection by now.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Aug 12, 2014 1:32:25 GMT -5
Fantastic Joseph. Looks like there'll be plenty of seeds from that head. You must be building a reasonably diverse collection by now. : It's hard to know... Due to concerns about pests and diseases I quarantined my garden against bringing in new garlic varieties. This year I discarded about 20 varieties that didn't even come close to making seeds. 5 varieties are flowering for the first time this summer that look like they might have a chance still of making seed. I grew about 10 new seedlings this year. And I'm maintaining some softnecks and semi-bolting varieties even though there is little chance that they will make seeds. And I'm keeping a few clones because they grow fantastically and bolt strongly, even though there is little hope that they will ever set seed. I thought biennials were slow to use in plant breeding. Garlic is even slower. |
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Post by oldmobie on Aug 24, 2014 18:56:25 GMT -5
My mother-in-law asked me "Is that wild garlic out in the flowerbed?". I found this:  The ground was too hard to pull them up, but the ones I broke smelled like garlic. I googled "garlic flower" and several of the results looked like this. I'd estimate there were 50-100. I don't grow garlic. I've been meaning to start. I know next to nothing about it. But I know there's a big interest in converting it to a seed grown crop with the adaptability that comes with sexual reproduction. Am I looking at potential garlic seeds here? Is it garlic, and if so, is it on track to produce seeds? Is there anything I should be doing? |
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Post by philagardener on Aug 24, 2014 20:00:02 GMT -5
Those look like what I know as garlic chives, Allium tuberosum. They reproduce prolifically by seed (as well as division of clumps). |
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Post by oldmobie on Aug 24, 2014 21:31:09 GMT -5
Those look like what I know as garlic chives, Allium tuberosum. They reproduce prolifically by seed (as well as division of clumps). Thank you! That does look like it. Maybe that's why I didn't see bulbils. Not being true garlic, it's not likely to produce true garlic seeds.  I think it may provide a garlic taste and smell to my soap spray for the squash bugs. If that don't git 'r done, I may buy some tobacco to soak, and spray that on 'em too.  |
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Post by kazedwards on Aug 25, 2014 10:53:24 GMT -5
This is the garlic heads today. These are the three with the most pods. How long should I let them dry?   |
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Post by richardw on Aug 25, 2014 14:29:06 GMT -5
Should have plenty of seed there by the looks Zach
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Post by raymondo on Aug 25, 2014 16:41:03 GMT -5
This is the garlic heads today. These are the three with the most pods. How long should I let them dry? When I'm drying onion or leek seeds, I put the heads, with stems still attached, in a large paper bag and wait until they are bone dry before trying to thresh. |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Aug 25, 2014 22:56:36 GMT -5
kazedwards: Good looking harvest. Last time I dried garlic seed pods it took a long time. A long time. A long time. Did I mention how long it took? hehehe. Closer to months than weeks. I also typically keep allium seed heads in paper bags while they dry.
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Post by kazedwards on Aug 26, 2014 0:13:19 GMT -5
Paper bag they go tomorrow! Hopefully they will fit in a small one. I have 4 or 5 other heads that have seed pods too. Also btw each garlic 200+ bulbils on it and I had 20 garlic. So I have a plethora of bulbils if anyone would like a few....or a hundred. I would hate for them to go unused. They grew well this year and nothing seemed to bother them. I'm not sure if they will ever produce flowers like they did this year but you never know. Just drop me a PM if you are interested in helping me out.
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Post by Al on Aug 31, 2014 5:14:56 GMT -5
In case anyone has missed this, here is a site for garlic lovers: www.garlicworld.co.ukSome interesting articles esp. report about Allium tuncelianum. A fully fertile wild garlic found in central Turkey. Might this be useful for breeding / crossing? Sounds like it is used by locals in the kitchen so perhaps it just needs to be improved to compete with regular garlic? |
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Post by kazedwards on Sept 13, 2014 13:13:59 GMT -5
So I checked the brown bag that I put the seed heads in. There were quite a few pods that have split open and I can see the seed in them!!! There are also about 10 seeds in the bottom of the bag too. Still have a lot of seed pods that are green and still drying. I will have pictures soon too but I don't have time at the moment. Thank you all for the help with this project! True Garlic Seed!
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I think it may provide a garlic taste and smell to my soap spray for the squash bugs. If that don't git 'r done, I may buy some tobacco to soak, and spray that on 'em too. 
