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Post by 12540dumont on Dec 9, 2012 16:14:43 GMT -5
This is all Joseph's Garlic, looking mighty good here on the 9th of December Attachments:
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Post by bunkie on Dec 10, 2012 9:12:53 GMT -5
looking good holly! does it die back during the winter months there?
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Dec 17, 2012 14:51:05 GMT -5
I am growing a few of the GRIN garlic bulbils indoors this winter, under grow lights next to a basement window. Temperature is currently around 65F. Hoping to have small bulbs to go into the ground in the spring. I'm intending to let them dry out about mid February, so I can store them in the refrigerator for about 6 weeks before replanting in mid-April. I'm hoping that will get them enough of a head start that they will blossom this coming growing season. I am providing 12 hours per day of fluorescent light, plus whatever they get from the East facing window.  On the same shelf, I am also growing randomly selected hardneck garlic varieties in pots. (Not known to produce true seeds, but I work with what I have.) Testing protocols similar to those described in Kamenetsky's 2004 paper to see if I can generate conditions suitable for the plants to form flowers without bulbils. These are currently receiving 12 hours light per day. At about the 6 to 8 leaf stage I intend to interrupt that schedule by 16 hours light per day for one week. (In the background are a couple of potatoes grown from TPS last summer which I am growing overwinter to increase the number of mini-tubers available for planting next spring.)  |
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Post by oxbowfarm on Dec 17, 2012 16:02:37 GMT -5
I've gotten so excited about this obscure pursuit that I went ahead and requested some Central Asian accessions from GRIN. Of course I wasn't paying enough attention and duplicated one of the accessions Joseph had sent me but I still have six additional garlics from the land of the mighty garlic of the ancient ones. For some reason photobucket has changed the linking process for a whole album but here are two of them.   |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Dec 27, 2012 19:34:30 GMT -5
Today I reviewed the report of the Root and Bulb Vegetable Crop Germplasm Committee Meeting Monday, August 2, 2010, 8:00 - 10:00 AM, Springs D & E, Desert Springs JW Marriott Resort & Spa, Palm Desert, CA Among it's data was a list of garlic cultivars and why they are being cryopreserved. Of interest to this thread were: | good pollen production | PI 493098, PI 540335 (Americky Maly), W6 1883 (U 072), W6 8417 (Rojo de Castro), W6 12832, W6 35680 (Red Grain) | | good seed producer | PI 540316, PI 540319 (R81), PI 615420 (W6-4285), W6 26171 (K431) | | Group J | PI 615419 (W6-4264), W6 12839 (Gourmet Red) | | Group L | PI 540338 (Starobelskij Belyj), PI 540357 (850904-32) | | good seed producer / Group L (near center of DNA diversity) | PI 540336 (Seversky Palicak), PI 540337 (Adizanskij), PI 540356 |
[/tr][/table] Group J includes: Brown Tempest, Bogatyr, Marino, Nap's Mystery, Siberian, W6-12839, PI 540334, PI 540335, PI 615419 |
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Post by justness on Dec 30, 2012 12:01:44 GMT -5
This is the native garlic "Livno" from Bosnia and Hercegovine, I barely got it on the Croatian market, the flood of Chinese garlic which is fine, when sliced, pozeleni.Livanjski a strong taste and smell, really beautiful sorta.Voljela would nabaviri this "Uzbekistan ikazakhstan" garlic, I watched the Russian pages about him, but they were not sent to Croatia .. watch as a fine of varieties for you to see the charm oi48.tinypic.com/dzf68n.jpg.. this is a native of Dalmatia "dalmatian"-also a strong flavor and odor oi48.tinypic.com/1zoagrb.jpg |
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Post by raymondo on Dec 30, 2012 15:06:18 GMT -5
My attempt at producing true seed was quite unsuccessful. The plants died before the flowers opened. Next year I will cut some scapes and keep them in water.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Mar 18, 2013 14:56:51 GMT -5
I planted true pollinated garlic seeds today... All 3 of them. I collected 4 seeds last fall, but when I scarified them before planting, one of them turned to dust.
I planted them in the starting mix that I am using for all of my seed starting this spring: (coir, perlite, compost, soil). Then watered them and put them in the refrigerator. I'll leave them there for a week or two of cold stratification before warming them up to see if anything germinates.
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Post by 12540dumont on Mar 18, 2013 16:27:04 GMT -5
Joseph, they're looking good. Attachments:
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Post by olddog on Mar 18, 2013 18:53:07 GMT -5
Fascinating, research, and gorgeous garlic!
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Post by steev on Mar 18, 2013 21:19:06 GMT -5
Joseph: the six varieties you sent me are still perking along (slowly). I think I'll not be planting them out on the farm this season, maybe in Fall, but I won't bank on it. I can pamper them better in pots here in Oakland until they display some desire to thrive.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Mar 19, 2013 0:46:02 GMT -5
Holly: Nicely weeded garden.  Steev: I planted some of the bulbils in pots indoors and some in the ground. PI540319 was the first to sprout indoors, and is already an inch tall in the garden about 11 days after the snow melted. W6 26171 and Z058 are also sprouting in the garden. Some of the indoor plants croaked. PI540319 is thriving indoors. The named varieties I acquired are doing fine. These are cultivars that are known to have produced pollinated garlic seed in other gardens. These are growing on the north side of a building. I planted another patch of these same cultivars in an open field.  My landrace hard-necked garlic is also growing great even though I covered it with leaves last fall that matted down during the winter.  I planted a large patch of Brown Tempest cloves in mid-winter. They are just starting to sprout. It is a variety that produces great pollen, unfortunately, it is far enough removed from the other garlic patch that it isn't likely to contribute much pollen. But it might produce seeds... I have started using the phrase "Pollinated Garlic Seed" because I think the meaning is more intuitively obvious than "True Garlic Seed". I'm still toying with how "True Pollinated Garlic Seed" rolls off the tongue. |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Mar 19, 2013 21:52:25 GMT -5
I have garlic germplasm to share: A second shipment of the same
bulbils I shared during the winter. Accession numbers: PI 540337,
PI 540319, PI 540316, PI 540357, W6 26171, Z058. They are small
to tiny, so I expect it to take two growing seasons before they
flower. I planted 130 feet of row today, and still have lots left for
sharing.
I also have a few cloves of Brown Tempest to share. I expect them
to flower this summer. I haven't grown this before. Brown Tempest
seems to be a clone (Group J) of PI 540335 which produced seed for
Jenderek (2004).
Send me a personal message if you'd like some.
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Post by steev on Mar 19, 2013 23:00:28 GMT -5
The garlics you sent me have been outside since seeded in pots, still mostly little wispy things, not numerous, but growing. They seem more hopeful since I caged them from the fershlugginer squirrels.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Apr 6, 2013 15:02:37 GMT -5
The garlic that I planted in the house failed to thrive. Yesterday I transplanted it outside. No point in doing so, because I already have all the same varieties growing outside. Here's what my garlic seed production bed (north side of building) looked like this morning. It started as cloves from the cultivars I acquired last summer that have produced seeds in other gardens, and cloves from my patch that produced swollen ovaries in 2012.  This patch doesn't include the GRIN bulbils. I split them between two patches: One in a my main field, and one in a warmer micro-climate, with sandy soil, and more frequent watering, but with competition and shade from trees. I likewise split my other garlic germplasm between the gardens. I'm interested in seeing the differences in growth. |
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