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Post by MikeH on Aug 17, 2011 5:37:14 GMT -5
But if you can be patient, when and if I ever do get more, I'll put you on the list for a little seed. Colour of the beverage doesn't bother me. I can be patient so please do put me on your list. After the first snow, I'd also be quite willing to try chasing it down if I knew a bit about what I was chasing. Variety name or number? Where and how you first came across them? Any other info? Regards, Mike |
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Post by grunt on Aug 17, 2011 10:34:19 GMT -5
I have several varieties of soybeans growing = have not yet tasted them, so don't know if they have the "beany" taste or not. With the machine I am using, I have never noticed beany taste = which could just be an indication I have no taste buds. I'll try making milk from each of the varieties after harvest, and try to remember to post the results.
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Post by MikeH on Aug 18, 2011 3:32:01 GMT -5
I'll try making milk from each of the varieties after harvest, and try to remember to post the results. When's soybean harvest time for you? Regards, Mike |
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Post by atash on Aug 19, 2011 0:27:21 GMT -5
How you make soymilk makes a difference. The trick being to find a heat-resistant blender to grind it in. Too bad they stopped making the stainless steel vitamix containers.
I live in a city where soy-milk machines can be bought retail, but soybeans themselves impossible to find in bulk. You'd really have to grow them yourself to make it worthwhile.
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Post by grunt on Aug 19, 2011 1:11:11 GMT -5
Mike+I'm likely going to be racing the frost this year = everything is very late. I have beans forming in some of the pods but also still have flowers on the plants. normally I have a long enough season that there's no worry about getting everything that sets. This year I'm not so sure.
If you get a good machine, like the Soya Joy I have, it does all of the steps for you = drop in the soaked beans with what ever additives, turn it on, and it's done in 18 minutes.
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Post by potter on Sept 25, 2011 18:15:05 GMT -5
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Post by MikeH on Sept 25, 2011 20:26:31 GMT -5
Yep, that's where I discovered that the beany taste occurs when an enzyme called lipoxygenase comes in contact with water and that lipoxygenase could be inactivated and most of the beany flavor removed by either dropping unsoaked soybeans directly into boiling water or by removing any cracked or split beans prior to soaking, then carefully dropping the soaked beans into boiling water. That would suggest that the widely disseminated advice of soaking beans overnight is incomplete advice since it would tend to activate the enzyme if there are any cracked or split beans. And researching lipoxygenase, I came across triple-null lipoxygenase beans which I'm growing this year. The added plus is that these beans are non-GMO. Regards, Mike |
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Post by spud on Nov 9, 2011 22:49:23 GMT -5
I tried growing edamine soybeans, mice found them first, must be like crack cocaine cause they can't seem to resist em. The only way I eat soybeans is when I make natto from em..
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Nov 12, 2011 21:27:51 GMT -5
In my family we don't consider soy to be a food. Soy oil is not permitted in our homes. We use soy only as a flavoring in the form of soy and teriaki sauce.
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Post by MikeH on Mar 30, 2012 3:31:47 GMT -5
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Post by blueadzuki on Mar 30, 2012 10:33:04 GMT -5
Mine are sort of lurching along. Out of the 30 or so beans I started indoors I've got 9 plantlets actually outside. Most of these are the greenish ones I was picking out of the bags and putting to the side.
Actually I had a sort of suprised when I actually put those up to grow. Two surpises actually. The first is that some of these beans actually had skins so thick and tight to the insdies they are actually hard seeded and imbibe resistant. While I am used to soybean not all growing under my hands, generally, the percentage that will at least swell (even in cold water overnight) is 100% but these stay shut and hard even in the high humidity and heat conditions they were in when planted indoors, and they were in there for at least 2 weeks) I decided I had enough other plants, so instead of nicking those, I simply dried them off and put them away for another time (when I am low enough that nicking and using them is my only option).
The second was with reagrd to color, I had sort of assumed that all of the green skinned ones would be green inside as well (that's usually how it goes, a greenish soybean is either green skinned green insides or white skinned, green insides (so the green shows through, like on a pea) However when I looked at the seed wuth thier seeds coats punctured by hypoctly or removed (if a soybean has swollen but not germinated for a few weeks, I tend to remove it, and take the seed coat off to determine if it is still a heathy looking seed, If it is it gets replanted sans coat which sometimes speeds things up. If it's rotten inside it gets tossed) it turns out that at least 80% of the greens were only green of skin, they're yellow inside.)
Those nine are still going as of this point. Though some of them seem to be suffering from an odd condition like dampening, except it is happening several inches above ground level (there were 12 in the pot originally). The stem cinches and the top droops and dies. It may be some sort of water stress or to much of a kink as the plant tops bend. I'm only removing them once the top actually dies, since if I pulled as soon as it bent over the pot would be empty (these are pole soybeans remember, so the top going elongated and crooked is NORMAL).
On the other side of the house is a big pot filled with the wrinkly black soybeans for the experiment, which is just beginning to germinate (it was direct seeded outside, so it's behind the greens that were done inside and brough out as plants). The little furries have so far mercifully left that pot alone, since I DOUSED it with repellant (though I did the same thing to the corn and it seems not to have stopped them, maybe they are (shudder) just waiting for them to come up) There are also a lot of germinating shoots in the actual vegatable garden where I dumped my leftovers, but since those are 1. Free to the furries as a sacrafice (as long as they are eating the beans, they are leaving what few corn plants I have left ALONE.) and 2. going to be dug under as soon as I set out the stakes and plant the cowpeas, most of those probably woun't count for anything in the total (though if any do survive and seed, I will of course add those to the take.)
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