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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Oct 23, 2011 13:48:00 GMT -5
Planting peas in the fall, and letting them lie dormant over winter works fine over here.
But planting peas before winter and watering them so they germinate is probably not a great idea. I don't think any will make it. Maybe if they were those tuberous peas, but i doubt if regular peas would make it.
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Post by caledonian on Oct 26, 2011 15:21:30 GMT -5
That's an excellent point, Joseph. I wish I had a reliable snow cover - I might give those peas another try. But the varieties I prefer are tall climbing types, and I suspect none of them could survive my winter no matter how much snow we received.
My falls are too wet for any kind of pea dormancy, keen101. If I don't get to the pods in a timely fashion, they tend to sprout within the pods - no way they'd keep in the ground.
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Post by steev on Oct 26, 2011 20:27:29 GMT -5
If I get more planting area worked up than I need for Winter crops before it's too cold, I've got twenty pounds or so of Austrian field peas that I'll sow for cover crop and green manure, unless the voles have gotten them.
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Post by spud on Nov 9, 2011 22:31:05 GMT -5
I haven't had good luck overwintering peas here when planted with fall mix cover crop. But I am enjoying eating the tips currently.
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Post by olddog on Nov 10, 2011 9:39:57 GMT -5
Well, I had really good luck with Austrian Winter peas also, and I grew them with oats as a cover crop.
I also have had good luck growing faba beans over the winter, as a cover crop but not sure if they will survive farther north? They have done well in the lighter more well-draining soil, but not so well in the heavy clay, poorly-draining soil.
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Post by cortona on Nov 10, 2011 13:25:25 GMT -5
i've planted two rows of winter peas, one of withe lupine and several rows of fava beans thet here overwinter easily. i hope to plant other peas(i plan to sow bush shellyes and more favas as the season go)
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Post by robertb on Nov 11, 2011 14:17:54 GMT -5
Soil's a very poor conductor of heat, so it's always going to be warmer than the winter minimum, probably by quite a long way.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Mar 23, 2012 19:20:04 GMT -5
The winter peas survived despite almost no snow-cover during the coldest parts of winter:  Also, the area along the edge of the field where they grew last summer is filled with thousands of young plants. They are currently about an inch tall. It is my intention to attempt to cross these with shelling peas during the summer. I'd like to find a shelling pea that can survive the winter and provide a super early harvest. I planted about 60 shelling pea seeds last fall. The seedlings all died during the winter. |
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Post by 12540dumont on Mar 24, 2012 19:26:49 GMT -5
Lupins from the Desert Lupin Project. This is a really interesting part of our farm. For about 10 years, I threw the compost over the fence, and the soil here is about 6 inches taller than anywhere else on the rest of the farm. It's (hi Joseph) here that I plant to put Capers when the finally are ready to plant. Attachments:
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Post by 12540dumont on Mar 24, 2012 19:29:05 GMT -5
The Fava field this morning. Attachments:
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Post by 12540dumont on Mar 24, 2012 19:30:43 GMT -5
The favas after Leo tilled between the rows. Note, I hilled potatoes next door. Attachments:
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Post by templeton on Mar 25, 2012 7:31:30 GMT -5
Forget about the frost, I've just lost a whole F1 generation of one of my crosses to mice!
Only had a dozen seeds, and the little ******s ate them all!
T
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Post by ottawagardener on Mar 25, 2012 11:58:34 GMT -5
I like your project Joseph.
Templeton: Oh no!
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Mar 25, 2012 12:41:03 GMT -5
Forget about the frost, I've just lost a whole F1 generation of one of my crosses to mice! Only had a dozen seeds, and the little ******s ate them all! T Twice in my long life I have lost my entire seed stash to mice. These days I store just about all my seeds in glass jars. And the jars get frozen before storage to kill insects. Then just to be extra safe, I store archive copies of my garden off-site in steel cans. This year, I mailed 4 archive copies of my entire garden to collaborators. However, since I only have 4 seeds from one of my pea crosses, there is not an archive copy... It would really suck to lose the F1! I'm stewing like crazy about where to plant it: Do I plant it at home where the growing conditions are less than ideal but it is more safe? Or do I plant it in the field where growing conditions are perfect, but it's more susceptible to getting trampled or accidentally picked? |
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Post by raymondo on Mar 25, 2012 14:54:25 GMT -5
Having a secondary stash is a great idea Joseph.
T, what a disappointment. Do you think you'll recreate that particular F1?
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