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Post by ottawagardener on Nov 1, 2011 9:21:30 GMT -5
Lots of suggestions. Thanks to everyone. I'll definitely try some of these and let you know how they do for me. I did grow Black Fuji (name?) this year but only got one measly squash out of it and this year was a squash bounty! The larger squash literally squashed it by several hundred times in production.
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Post by cortona on Nov 4, 2011 9:57:00 GMT -5
i've recived some seeds from grin/usda of 4 different bush varietyes..probably it comes from the so called zapalito dal tronco genealogy because all come from argentina. if somebody want to work on tryal it i can share some seeds happily!
ps i have zapalito dal tronco too from gatersleben
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Post by ottawagardener on Nov 4, 2011 14:59:57 GMT -5
Cortona: I don't know too much about this pumpkin but I'd be happy to help out with a small sample of seeds. Lots of space! All I could find were some pictures of a small, green maxima with a description that it had white flesh. If I change the name into its Spanish version zapallito de tronco, my understanding is that it is eaten as a summer squash as well though my brief search didn't reveal more. Yes?
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Post by cortona on Nov 4, 2011 15:19:15 GMT -5
telsing the zapalito redondo dal tronco is a maxim used as summer squash, a bush variety but people like to let is fruit mature and eath it as a winter squash, wath i've recived from gatersleben is supposed to be eactly this but wath i've recived from usda/grin is something related to zapalito because are bush tipe but more on the winter side of the bush ;-) i've on hand one of the packet and the code are PI 458691 86GI you surely understand wath they wrthe about it better tan me ; tatermaterseeds.com/smf/index.php/topic,44.0.html this link show some interessant info about zapalito |
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Post by atash on Nov 4, 2011 23:57:35 GMT -5
That's right.
"Zapallito redondo de tronco"
Zapallito = summer squash
"redondo" = round
"de tronco" refers to the fact that it's a MAXIMA type squash.
Round maxima-type summer squash. The original packet from Semillas Garsch says something like "Zapallo/Zapallito". Not sure if that meant they were suggesting using it either way, or not, but its primarily a summer squash.
The actual name of the one I have is, I THINK, Pilar. "Zapallito redondo de tronco" is the description, and it could refer to ANY squash of similar type.
Yes, you can eat them as a winter squash, but I would say probably works better primarily as a summer, with extras being OK to let ripen all the way. It is surprisingly vigorous for its size; the foliage does not go senescent as fast as those of most bush types I've ever grown. It's a good healthy plant with beautiful very dark green, round summer squashes.
I am not sure of productivity; we let most of ours go to seed--for obvious reasons LOL. I did harvest a few as summer squash. Good seed producers, and the seed is big, healthy, and vigorous.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Nov 5, 2011 0:48:46 GMT -5
The original packet from Semillas Garsch says something like "Zapallo/Zapallito". Not sure if that meant they were suggesting using it either way, or not, but its primarily a summer squash. Yup. Standard Spanish vocabulary: Either eat it mature or eat it little. |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Nov 5, 2011 0:51:37 GMT -5
I did grow Black Fuji (name?) this year but only got one measly squash out of it and this year was a squash bounty! The larger squash literally squashed it by several hundred times in production. Black Futzu? I grew black futzu, a moschata... It produced small squash with low productivity. Puckered dark green skin. Not very productive in my garden compared to other butternuts, but tasty. |
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Post by oxbowfarm on Nov 5, 2011 5:18:29 GMT -5
There is a new mini-butternut out of UNH called Honeynut. I'm pretty sure its and F1 but it is definitely small and a butternut so probably stores well. I bought some seed this year but never got it planted. You are welcome to some if you'd like. I got it from High Mowing. Cannot say anything about quality as I've never actually grown the thing. It does look good, I've been pretty happy with most of the UNH breeding work that has come out lately.
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Post by ottawagardener on Nov 13, 2011 16:43:58 GMT -5
Oxbowfarm: Sounds good! I'll pm and I've not heard of UNH so I'll have to look them up.
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Post by raymondo on Nov 14, 2011 5:22:19 GMT -5
I could only find a Honeynut out of Cornell's Vegetable Breeding Institute. It's pretty small at less than 15cm long but that's a good size for a small family, especially as it's touted as a good keeper.
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Post by flowerpower on Nov 15, 2011 5:28:04 GMT -5
I bought a Honeynut in sept. It's 5 in long & 3 in wide. The bulb end is the same length as the neck. I'll post a pic later today. It's a cute little thing but it will only serve 1 person. I will be saving and replanting the seeds. I'm sure I'll end up with a variety of sizes.
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Post by oxbowfarm on Nov 15, 2011 6:13:38 GMT -5
I went and checked the High Mowing online catalog and Ray is right. They are from Cornell. I still have a lot of good things to say about the UNH breeding program right now. I think I got it confused with the Sugar Dumpling squash which I also bought and also did not plant which definitely IS from the UNH program.
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