Anyone planning for next season(2012) legumes?

[castanea]

Holly,

Where did you get Takamutua Black? That is a hard bean to find outside NZ.

[12540dumont]

Well of course, I got it from NZ!

That's the great thing about this board, I got some great seeds from Belgium, OZ and NZ, Italy and Utah (which is practically Siberia), Canada, California and even some from NY. Some one even sent me some chestnuts! Which are safely tucked into pots. I suspect I may have to basket these against the wily gopher, who ate my 10 year old avocado. Bastard!

I even got a package from Alan Kapuler containing pure gold, of course in the form of seeds

Isn't it a wonderful world?

[diane]

I'm going to grow some more Lima o del Papa, which I grew a few years ago. I assumed they were just regular pole beans that produce flat lima-looking beans, but now I find that they are actually limas. I am surprised that they managed to produce out here on the cool coast.

I can't remember what part of them I ate - I was growing a lot of pole beans and they all got cooked together. They were pretty - white with brown markings.

I've just looked up lima beans and discover that pretty coloured ones, like the ones I grew, have poisonous cyanogenetic glucosides and need to be soaked and boiled. Would this apply to fresh ones, or just after they've dried?

[12540dumont]

Joseph, Can you tell us more about your Siberian Pea Shrub?

[benboo]

I am also growing Siberian pea shrub.

I started 7 seeds in the spring as a test, and the seedlings grew to about 1 foot tall. They grow pretty fast as soon as they take root, and are hardy little buggers. I still had more seed, because I lost it when I wanted to use it... but I found it and started the rest. mine could also take some neglect and a lack of water. some are only 4 inches tall, because I planted them late, but they look good this winter. They are supposedly edible, and I hope they flower in a couple of years.

I also have purple/red yard long bean seed. I ordered the different colors thinking they would have slight differences, but they turned out to be the same thing. It takes up too much space here, but they are extremely vigorous growers. If anyone wants seed, let me know.

[blueadzuki]

You can add one more species to my list; now that Richters is offering them, I'll probably try my hand again at planting some Bambarra Groundnuts (Vigna subterrena). Though since they need a long warm season, I'll probably pot them so I can bring them inside to finish up.

[blueadzuki]

You can add one more species to my list; now that Richters is offering them, I'll probably try my hand again at planting some Bambarra Groundnuts (Vigna subterrena). Though since they need a long warm season, I'll probably pot them so I can bring them inside to finish up.

[Joseph Lofthouse]

I have more or less finalized the seed collection for my dry bean landrace. Approximately 100 varieties are represented from 10 different species. I figure I'll call it "100 Bean Soup Mix"

With little effort, it would be possible to add 2-3 species. I might already have seed if I look in last year's stash.

[potter]

I wasn't going to dig into my box yet or start my list..planting season is still weeks away for us..but having to salivate after your lists..I've joined with pen and paper..
So here is my first plan for the coming season, no doubt there is going to be many additions as time goes by:
Peas
Table talk- tall, shelling
Jeyes- tall, shelling
Harold Idle- tall, shelling
Hugh's Huge- tall, shelling
Serpette Guilloteau- tall(ish), shelling
Bijou- tall, mangetout
Lung Prabang- tall, mangetout
Shiraz- purple mangetout
Carlin Pea- (soaking)soup pea
(Swedish) Yellow pea- (soaking) soup pea
Svensk Sabel- ??
Skansk Margart- Tall(ish), shelling
Dorian (mr big)- shelling
Sugar Ann- sugar snap
Show Perfection- Tall,Shelling
Broad Beans
Pink Flamingo
Hangdown
Kaulion white
Beans
Climbing Pinto-shelling
Succotash-climbing?,shelling
Swedish Brown- bush, shelling
Elvie- bush?, shelling
Gauk-bush, snap?
Bumble Bee-bush, shelling
Rose Coco-bush, shelling
Fiskerby-bush?, snap
Gotlands white bean-bush shelling
Hutterite Soup bean
Cheuvrier Vert-bush, snap
Merveille de Piemonte-climbing snap
Triumph de Farcy-bush snap
Ernie's Big Eye- bush, shelling
Creek Gigantes/elephant bean-shelling runner type
Hmm..I'm not sure if I can add to that anymore later on.. Should not be greedy..

[potter]

Pole Dry
Tiger Bean
Comtesse de Chambord
Zolfino
Purgatorio

Have you grown Comtesse before?...do they climb for you?
I'm just asking as my comtesse aren't climbing sort..I would say they are very 'untidy, floppy, tallish bush beans'..even saying semi-climbing is too 'tall'..and bush not enough..

[ottawagardener]

You do realize that pink flamingo broad bean made me google but with no picture results!

[davida]

Jan 31, 2012 0:37:40 GMT -5 Joseph Lofthouse said:

I have more or less finalized the seed collection for my dry bean landrace. Approximately 100 varieties are represented from 10 different species. I figure I'll call it "100 Bean Soup Mix"

With little effort, it would be possible to add 2-3 species. I might already have seed if I look in last year's stash.

Joseph,

Could we possibly have a list by different species?

Thanks,
David

[potter]

Jan 31, 2012 8:51:30 GMT -5 ottawagardener said:

You do realize that pink flamingo broad bean made me google but with no picture results!

This is only photo that I've come across myself..
www.seemnemaailm.ee/eng/index.php?CID=72&offset=20

[davida]

Jan 31, 2012 3:51:18 GMT -5 potter said:

I'm not sure if I can add to that anymore later on.. Should not be greedy..

Potter,

An excellent list. You always have interesting varieties. Enjoy your posts.

David

[Joseph Lofthouse]

ID the species in my Pulse Soup Landrace? I was keeping a list, but I can't find it today when it would be nice to have.

Since I got many of the seeds out of bean soup mixes, or from the grocery store, I can't ID all of them to species and especially not to variety, but here's a partial list:

• Common bean, Phaseolus vulgaris: Kidney, peruano, navy, pinto, rattlesnake, black, great northern, anasazi, calypso, goat eye, pink, red, cranberry, white, brown, bush snap/dry landrace. Common beans account for most of the varieties.
  
• Tepary Bean, Phaseolus acutifolius: Landrace
  
• Lima bean, Phaseolus lunatus: Large butter, Henderson, spotted, small butter
  
• Chickpea, : Garbanzo, OttawaGardener landrace
  
• Mung bean, Vigna radiata: one variety
  
• Broad bean, Vicia faba: one variety
  
• Black-eyed pea, Vigna unguiculata: 3 sources.
  
• Lentil, Lens culinaris: 3 different colors
  
• Garden pea, Pisum sativum: ~50 varieties being planted in a separate patch. Soup peas.
  
• Pigeon pea, at least that is what I am calling them. About 3 varieties.
  

I'm intending to separate them into a pole landrace and a bush landrace during the next harvest. I'll also separate the cool season species from the hot weather species.

I didn't start out intending to have so many species in the landrace, but since my seed source was often mixed pulses, it got eclectic really quickly. It would be easy to add the following species to the landrace:

• Runner bean
  
• Soybean