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Post by steev on Jun 13, 2012 22:19:53 GMT -5
A client here in the East Bay has Crimson-Flowered that are 3' tall.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Aug 27, 2012 12:29:37 GMT -5
My fava beans germinated this spring, and grew fine, and flowered like crazy... But my garden may be missing a pollinator, or I planted a sterile variety, because out of about 1000 flowers that bloomed, I can only find one seed pod on any of the plants.
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Post by oxbowfarm on Aug 27, 2012 12:46:29 GMT -5
I don't think its sterilty, I've noticed that fava beans abort flowers and small pods like crazy if they don't like the weather. Basically that means if it is too hot or dry or both. I had good luck with Norka fava this spring. I'll send you some.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Aug 27, 2012 19:11:46 GMT -5
I've noticed that fava beans abort flowers and small pods like crazy if they don't like the weather. Basically that means if it is too hot or dry or both. I had good luck with Norka fava this spring. I'll send you some. Thanks. There is plenty of moisture in the soil, but the relative humidity is very low around here, especially this summer. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2012 21:39:17 GMT -5
Joseph, I had the same problem this spring with European favas, but the Pakistani strain I sent you seems more tolerant of dryness and heat. It should do better in your area. The seedlings and their exposed roots (long story) were snowed on at 24'F in March and set pods in the mid - high 80's in May. Maybe it's because some of the Middle Eastern favas haven't been selected as heavily as European strains and so retain some heat tolerance genes?
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Post by blueadzuki on Aug 27, 2012 22:20:46 GMT -5
Richters also has two obscure fava types Surami (from Georgia [the country not the state]) and Yerevan (from Armenia) I imagine the former might have some good cold tolerance genes, and the latter might have some of the hypotheical middle eastern heat tolerant genes the people here were speculating on.
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Post by diane on Aug 27, 2012 22:48:40 GMT -5
I think I have one kind of fava that wants to be a perennial. I will have to test to see if this is true. It is Sweet Lorane, bred by Steve Solomon. It produces pods, then when they dry, it grows again from the roots, just like peas do, and produces another crop. I noticed this last year and it is happening again, but I don't know whether it is the same plant.
I will sow some of the seeds from the current one, in an area that has never grown them before, and will keep track of what exactly happens.
I will be sowing about 16 kinds of favas this fall, mostly from Jim Ternier in Saskatchewan.
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Post by mayz on Aug 28, 2012 4:57:30 GMT -5
Thanks. There is plenty of moisture in the soil, but the relative humidity is very low around here, especially this summer. Fava is very resistant to cold. I sow it before peas usually in february. So they blossom in the cool and humid climate of april and are mature in june before the summer. Hot temperatures are not good for the taste and the yield of fava. And my summer (average high 23°C) is more fresh than the Utah's summer. Try to sow it earlier |
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Post by wolfcub on Aug 28, 2012 18:27:50 GMT -5
I just ordered some 5B's broad beans fron Full Circle Seeds. Has anyone grown them? They are a long bean with 6-7 seeds.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Aug 28, 2012 21:59:12 GMT -5
Fava is very resistant to cold. I sow it before peas usually in february. So they blossom in the cool and humid climate of april and are mature in june before the summer. Hot temperatures are not good for the taste and the yield of fava. And my summer (average high 23°C) is more fresh than the Utah's summer. Try to sow it earlier Yup. I was tricked by the name... "Bean" to me is something that should be planted in the hottest weather possible, never while there is any possibility of frost. Next time I plant Fava Beans, I will treat them like peas, getting them into the ground as soon as it can be worked in the spring. Maybe I'm having the same problem with garbanzo beans. |
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Post by 12540dumont on Aug 29, 2012 0:01:40 GMT -5
Joseph,
Cicers and Favas both need to go in when it's cool. Here in Calif. I plant Favas when I plant garlic, Sept or October. I've been planting the Cicers in March.
I'm going to plant both the lupins and the favas in Sept/Oct this year.
PM me if you need more favas. Mine is a 5 variety grex, and growing all the time. I got a cool new one from Oxbow and one from Cortona to add this year. (So next year it will be a 7 grex). So far they tolerate cold and flood.
It might be interesting for you try to get them in before it snows and see if they come up for you in spring.
I'm doing Cicer, Vigna & Pea trials next year. The lentils I tried this year are coming along really well. And Cortona's Vignas are huge this year. My sudden interest in these relate to water. Or rather, my concern that there may be a lack of it.
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Post by steev on Aug 29, 2012 0:37:00 GMT -5
I expect to get working on favas and garbanzoes this year, rain willing.
My plantings of Pink Eye Purple Hull and Cortona's Trasiminoes are growing apace; I'm giving them the same water as my sorghum, not much.
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Aug 29, 2012 17:13:34 GMT -5
I'm having similar issues this year with Painted Lady Runner Beans. Lots of beans visiting the blooms but they fall, We've had zero beans on the vine.  |
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Post by ilex on Sept 1, 2012 4:05:24 GMT -5
Next time I plant Fava Beans, I will treat them like peas, getting them into the ground as soon as it can be worked in the spring. Maybe I'm having the same problem with garbanzo beans. Yes, all those are cool weather crops and quite hardy. I can get you seed of "luz de otoño" fava, should be fairly hot tolerant as can be planted in August here for a crop in October (July in cooler areas for a September crop). In August, we get highs in the 90's with a few days in the 100's (think Southern California). The bad part is that I have comercial stock, which is not tretated with fungicide, but painted with it. I think most varieties are day lengh sensitive. Some varieties have an optimal planting time, as they seem to produce less with a too early planting, making too much green and less pods. At least that's what locals say ... As a side note, I'm willing to trade for other varieties (big size beans) for my landrace project. I have a few of the following available for trade and can get a couple more (many are comercial stock): - reina mora - del pais tardana - wizard (mid size) - muchamiel - valenciana - luz de otioño - baba beltza (small black, very rare) very few available. |
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