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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Dec 18, 2014 20:41:55 GMT -5
Ever throw mushrooms away because they had started molding? That's the mycelia starting to run out of the fruit. It's easy to grow oyster mushroom mycelia by chopping up fruits and putting them into damp cardboard, so I figure it will work with wood. I guess we'll know a year from now.
I'd definitely experimenting. Wait till you see photos of tomorrow's experiment!!!
Hmmm. I'm wondering if all these guys that are supposedly teaching us how to grow mushrooms are really more interested in selling spawn plugs. Perhaps all seed companies are the same regardless of which kingdom their wares belong to.
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Post by steev on Dec 19, 2014 1:37:31 GMT -5
You know perfectly well that commodification is the name of the game; no coy naivete, now. There are just too many people for straight-up productivity to seem to be the way to get a living. Why produce an actual product when there are so many people who will buy snake-oil or derivatives, pie-in-the-sky or flat-out bullshit? This is where the money economy has taken us. It's no longer "take the money and run", it's become "take the money and strut off expecting a bonus for having taken it". I'd feel bad about my attitude if it didn't look so rationally responsive to current culture.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Dec 19, 2014 16:04:02 GMT -5
Here's photos of the beginnings of my project to create hybrid mushrooms, and to develop locally-adapted genetically-diverse landrace oyster mushrooms for my garden and climate... I suppose that to do this project right I need to get into the woods more often to collect local mushrooms. I posted photos of the parents previously in this thread. They consisted of two commercial strains (gray oyster and golden? oyster) and one wild strain collected nearby (ivory colored). Spores from the three strains were collected into the same glass bowl.  The spores were suspended in a dilute (0.3%) solution of hydrogen peroxide made with 1 part off the shelf peroxide and 9 parts water.  A wine thief (more commonly called turkey baster) was used to put the solution into holes drilled in a log. I didn't attempt to plug or seal the holes.  The log is incubating in the greenhouse. There was way more solution than required, so it got poured over the other logs, and dumped on straw bales, and on a piece of wood that I am incubating in a sealed plastic container. Check back next year for a status update... |
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Post by 12540dumont on Dec 20, 2014 21:52:23 GMT -5
Joseph, I dreamed last night that we started using mycelium to make an interactive communication web.
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Post by starry on Dec 22, 2014 8:56:42 GMT -5
Ever throw mushrooms away because they had started molding? That's the mycelia starting to run out of the fruit. It's easy to grow oyster mushroom mycelia by chopping up fruits and putting them into damp cardboard, so I figure it will work with wood. I guess we'll know a year from now. I'd definitely experimenting. Wait till you see photos of tomorrow's experiment!!! Hmmm. I'm wondering if all these guys that are supposedly teaching us how to grow mushrooms are really more interested in selling spawn plugs. Perhaps all seed companies are the same regardless of which kingdom their wares belong to. Looking forward to seeing your results  |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Dec 22, 2014 13:45:19 GMT -5
Three days ago I planted the (hybrid) oyster mushroom spores. I put some of them onto a small piece of leftover aspen wood. They have already germinated and are growing like crazy. Wow, That Was Fast!  |
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Post by DebTheFarmer on Jan 11, 2015 14:50:08 GMT -5
Three days ago I planted the (hybrid) oyster mushroom spores. I put some of them onto a small piece of leftover aspen wood. They have already germinated and are growing like crazy. Wow, That Was Fast! Just amazing! I put some oyster plugs into logs late summer. I don't know if I'll get a flush in the spring, but hopefully sometime this summer! |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Apr 27, 2015 9:39:22 GMT -5
After 3 days of rain the oyster mushroom logs were starting to pin, so I built a humidity chamber in the greenhouse and moved them into it.  |
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jul 29, 2015 23:56:41 GMT -5
Is there a particular wood that grows certain mushrooms better? (at least in your experiments?) There is a popular type here in Colorado called the King Bolete mushroom that they love at the mushroom festibles. in Telluride. If you could figure out how to cultivate that i (and many others) would be very interested. I always see it in pictures next to pine trees so i figure it might grow on pine logs. There was a website i found a long time ago where you could request samples of many edible mushroom mycelium spores for free from some sort of mushroom bank. I hope i can find it again. It had spores for the King Bolete (Boletus edulis). mushroaming.com/Telluride_Mushroom_festivalwww.mushroomsfmrc.com/gpage.html |
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Post by steev on Jul 30, 2015 0:24:49 GMT -5
Shrooms do have their preferred substrates; a bit of research will help in tailoring your available wood to your potential crop species.
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Post by starry on Jan 4, 2016 16:58:13 GMT -5
Here's photos of the beginnings of my project to create hybrid mushrooms, and to develop locally-adapted genetically-diverse landrace oyster mushrooms for my garden and climate... I suppose that to do this project right I need to get into the woods more often to collect local mushrooms. I posted photos of the parents previously in this thread. They consisted of two commercial strains (gray oyster and golden? oyster) and one wild strain collected nearby (ivory colored). Spores from the three strains were collected into the same glass bowl. The spores were suspended in a dilute (0.3%) solution of hydrogen peroxide made with 1 part off the shelf peroxide and 9 parts water. A wine thief (more commonly called turkey baster) was used to put the solution into holes drilled in a log. I didn't attempt to plug or seal the holes. The log is incubating in the greenhouse. There was way more solution than required, so it got poured over the other logs, and dumped on straw bales, and on a piece of wood that I am incubating in a sealed plastic container. Check back next year for a status update... Did this method of inoculation end up working for you Joseph? |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Jan 4, 2016 19:40:01 GMT -5
Did this method of inoculation end up working for you Joseph? The inoculation worked great. The logs got lost when I ran away from a long-term relationship that really wasn't working for me... I decided that it's not worth the anguish to try and retrieve them. Good thing about it is that I am now single, and enjoying peace and tranquility. |
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Post by steev on Jan 5, 2016 1:07:47 GMT -5
There is much to be said for peace and tranquility; beats the hell out of constant hoorah. There's plenty of mushroom spawn out there for another crack at it. I'll be surprised if you aren't besieged by potential partners, now that word is out that you're unemcumbered.
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Post by starry on Jan 5, 2016 20:42:14 GMT -5
It makes sense that a simpler method should work for mushroom inoculation...its not like someone is going around sterilizing the earth and transfering mushroom mycelium from petri dishes in the wild. I am going to give that a try.
Glad to hear you've found peace in your newfound single life.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jan 16, 2016 1:47:06 GMT -5
I may have posted this before, but it's still one of my all time favorite TED talks. www.ted.com/talks/paul_stamets_on_6_ways_mushrooms_can_save_the_world?language=enI guess i should be saving those corn cobs to put in an old shoebox. Joseph Lofthouse, what is the easiest, cheapest, most sustainable and/or cost effective way to grow a decent amount of edible mushrooms. Is cardboard a suitable medium? Are Oyster mushrooms the easiest to grow on these sources? It's really cool that you had mentioned sterilization should be easy if you use hydrogen peroxide since mushrooms produce that naturally. I know you can buy oyster mushroom spores online, even pink oyster mushrooms. Did you ever do this? I'm thinking of trying it myself this year under all the shady apple and chokecherry trees. If kept moist with a garden hose i would think it would work great. Also interesting use of the greenhouse. since i don't have a greenhouse i'm thinking of building myself a small cold frame. Growing oyster mushrooms in it in the winter wasn't something i thought about until just now... hmmm... www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-stamets/oyster-mushroom_b_2522084.html |
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