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Post by oxbowfarm on Jul 21, 2013 19:14:10 GMT -5
Mitla Black on the left, Blue Speckled Tepary on the right. Pretty much puts the nail in the coffin as far as I'm concerned.   |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Jul 21, 2013 22:10:41 GMT -5
Oxbowfarm: Good work. I agree with your assessment.
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Post by blueadzuki on Jul 21, 2013 22:32:22 GMT -5
Ok, now I am just confused. Is the difference between the two that teparies had that "split" keel on the flower. 'Cause if it is, I have a really weird problem; Most, if not all of the beans I grew this year had that split flower, including things like the fort portal that CAN'T be teparies (as far as I know there is no such thing as a kidney tepary). And I'm a little dubios about Bantu being one either (I'm not sure that teparies are found in Africa, and in any case, since teparies are drought resistant, a humid place like Uganda would not seem like somewhere where one would expect them to be.
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Post by oxbowfarm on Jul 21, 2013 22:37:25 GMT -5
The keels are not split. Actually the keels look awfully similar, they are the greeny/white spiral in the center of the flower. The keel is much less keel-shaped in Phaseolus than in most legumes because of the spiral twist.
The main difference is the shape, size, and attachment of the wings.
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Post by blueadzuki on Jul 21, 2013 23:14:33 GMT -5
Actually that was what I meant (I forgot my terminology) On my beans the wings were wide apart, like they are on the blossom on the right as opposed to the more normal "bean flower" shape as in the flower on the left
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Post by DarJones on Jul 23, 2013 2:33:23 GMT -5
nice photos of flower structure.
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Post by 12540dumont on Jul 23, 2013 21:49:41 GMT -5
Well, I lost all my seeds for Resilient Bean Breeder. My 4th of July waterer, dint. They are deader than dead. So, I can't check the photos from this year.
Not even Miracle Max could bring them back. Thanks for the photos Ox.
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Post by steev on Jul 23, 2013 23:44:46 GMT -5
See, this is where automation helps. While glitches can happen, one can mostly depend on the technology, where often one can't on people, who so often have things to do other than their jobs. Casting no aspersions on your help; you have enough to worry about without depending on flaky humans.
In the course of refining the irrigation system on the farm to its current state of "perfection"(?), many plants have slid down the learning curve to their doom, but I rarely make the same mistake more than twice before I learn, so I do progress. I monitor my system every week-end, but am confident it would chug along for months, barring critter-damage or the well going dry, neither of which is unprecedented, but one must cultivate some degree of stoic fatalism. Sort of "shit happens, but there's no particular reason it should happen to me".
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Post by steev on Jul 23, 2013 23:54:15 GMT -5
Returning to tepary beans, I picked and threshed the Blue-Speckled, getting 3-4#. I must go through my seed stores to see how much of this I have, as I want a large planting next year, but I'm pretty sure I can spare enough for a couple shots at cooking them this year. I want to try sprouting some, as well as just a pot of beans.
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Post by 12540dumont on Jul 24, 2013 19:36:55 GMT -5
Well, Leo was worried about leaving the farm, but I was so tired, he was worried about me too.
I got stung by a wasp on tit. Yes, it swelled to mammoth proportions. (Dar, don't go there). And the outside was that I couldn't farm anyway for a couple of days, so we decided to go to the cabin and mow the grass and sit in the creek. It was 103 there and 105 here.
Yes, my help is often more of a burden then help. And she skipped whole rows while I was gone. My Mare Des Bois strawberries are FRIED to a crackly crunch. Raised beds do poorly in the excessive heat, and she didn't think to water them more than once.
Basically, she does the EXACT letter of what you tell her. So if you tell her to water every row, that's exactly what she did. Each one got water once. So the berries and beans committed suicide by parching. I guess I forgot to say, repeat, repeat, repeat....
You know, there's some things you can't fix.
I'm was going to buy more controllers for irrigation, but every one I bought last year failed. That's a couple of hundred bucks. So give me a brand you like.
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Post by davida on Jul 24, 2013 19:45:04 GMT -5
Well, Leo was worried about leaving the farm, but I was so tired, he was worried about me too. I got stung by a wasp on tit. Yes, it swelled to mammoth proportions. (Dar, don't go there). Holly, It could be worse (I think, but maybe not!!). Peaches stepped on hers and we have had quite a time getting it back into production. If anyone on the forum ever has this problem, let us know and we can help. If you get stung, call Holly. David |
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Post by steev on Jul 24, 2013 20:27:17 GMT -5
Bummer about Peaches; careless girl!
Holly: I don't recall you being very boyish; that must have been a burden.
Given that you have 24/7 PG&E, Irrigro is pretty top-of-the-line (up to 12 circuits, at least).
For battery-powered, on the farm, I use DIG controllers, which I like very much, so far.
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Post by DarJones on Jul 26, 2013 9:44:43 GMT -5
Very confusing thread. Holly got stung on hers, peaches stepped on hers, Steve uses DIG. If I didn't know better I'd think I was in the wrong forum. Fortunately, I can still see the tepary bean header which must mean we are talking about beans. Except that I just remembered what happened when I got stung on the wanger by a honeybee........ Did I say wanger? No NO NO, I meant chin. It was my CHIN.  |
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Post by steev on Jul 29, 2013 0:53:06 GMT -5
Dude! Can't tell one from t'other; so confused; do you recall which you pee from? That's probably not your chin.
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Post by DarJones on Jul 29, 2013 1:46:48 GMT -5
A head is a head and it MUST have a chin! I rest my case... er.... wanger.
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