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Post by castanea on May 19, 2012 10:06:40 GMT -5
"I suppose that I should pinch out the flower so that energy is diverted to repairing the wound."
It doesn't always work that way. With some fruit and nut trees, the presence of a flower, or fruit, sends chemical signals to the tree to keep that limb alive. If you cut off the flower on a weak graft, chemical signals are reduced and the tree may abandon the graft. You probably know more than I do about apple trees though.
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Post by MikeH on May 19, 2012 10:42:09 GMT -5
I don't know what I know but I know what I don't know and that's not a great deal about apples and grafting in general (or much else, if truth be told). ;D I'm just starting out on the grafting path. You've come with a reason that I can use to keep that flower. I'll probably ask the question on the NAFEX list.
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Post by castanea on May 19, 2012 12:19:21 GMT -5
The problem I've had with the NAFEX list in the past, aside from the fact that too many people on there live and die by using toxic chemicals, is that you get very generic mainstream answers that they got from their county ag agent or their garden center. Most don't have a very deep understanding of what they are doing with their plants, or why. I know there are some very sharp people there, but they are the ones who usually don't participate much.
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Post by MikeH on May 20, 2012 6:00:21 GMT -5
I checked with my long-distance mentor about the flowers and he said I would let them grow as is, most likely fruit set will be aborted on the first year graft. so I will leave them be and see what happens.
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Post by MikeH on May 20, 2012 9:57:24 GMT -5
As long as they never dried out, don't give up yet. They take a long time to emerge. About three months in the fridge, then two months in warm air. Seed sown outside in fall will emerge sometime the following summer. MB Not necessarily or at least not for the roots. I've got 11 seeds started in 1 litre water bottles and at least 7 have roots after a week. How do I know? Well, I started them in regular seeding flats and after thinking about it a bit realized that there was room for about maybe 3/4" of root before the roots started circling the pot. So this morning I carefully took them out of the flats to transplant into much, much deeper 1 litre water bottle pots. That's when I saw the root growth. A couple had 1/2" of growth while the others had just split the seed casing and where showing little white nubs of roots. With the clear plastic bottles, I should be able to see the roots when they get well developed. They are crosses between cultivars but I plan to use some of them as rootstock for grafting other cultivars.
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Post by Calluna on Jun 9, 2012 17:11:15 GMT -5
I totally forgot about these seeds! Busy with my farm research, I ended up leaving the bag on a shelf in my room, and when packing up stuff today I found it-- and most of the seeds have germinated! Guess I stratified them correctly. I'm not sure what to do now, other than to get the deepest containers I can find, use the organic seedling mix I have here at home, and hope for the best!
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Post by castanea on Jun 9, 2012 17:49:16 GMT -5
I totally forgot about these seeds! Busy with my farm research, I ended up leaving the bag on a shelf in my room, and when packing up stuff today I found it-- and most of the seeds have germinated! Guess I stratified them correctly. I'm not sure what to do now, other than to get the deepest containers I can find, use the organic seedling mix I have here at home, and hope for the best! Or get a container that will root prune the tap root.
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Post by khoomeizhi on Jun 24, 2012 7:56:22 GMT -5
i planted stratified pawpaw seed...back in march? maybe late february? (my note-taking has been not so good this year)...no leaves out yet, but a bunch are almost there now.
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Post by MikeH on Jun 24, 2012 16:06:02 GMT -5
Some of the 11 seeds that I started on May 22 are showing roots at the bottom of the 1 litre bottles. One is starting to circle the bottom while showing signs of pushing the seed casing up through the soil.
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Post by Drahkk on Apr 13, 2013 18:27:16 GMT -5
I started 6 seeds on 9/7/12, 3 in each of 2 gladware bowls so I could see the root activity. Stuck them in the fridge that day; pulled them out and sat them in the kitchen window sometime in February. Today I picked them up and noticed two thick taproots snaking along the bottom: And one of them is just starting to push through the surface: Guess I'd better get some much deeper containers ready for transplant! MB
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