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Post by raymondo on Jul 29, 2014 1:58:30 GMT -5
I opened both the Ned Kellys I had from two years back as they both finally showed signs of rotting. Most of the seeds had sprouted and those that hadn't were rotting anyway. I'd best open this year's Jade Numbats to retrieve the seed before it germinates.
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Post by oxbowfarm on Jul 29, 2014 6:53:10 GMT -5
I found that leaving zucchini past the 21 days of after-ripening is a bad idea. They start sprouting really quickly in my experience.
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Post by oxbowfarm on Aug 2, 2014 16:52:48 GMT -5
So far so good with the 2014 Ned Kelly patch. I've got some nice plants and after tomorrow I'll have at least one self pollination on each plant. I've also got a number of crosses between various plants to try and retain diversity. Not knowing the eventual qualities of each plant I want to have a self of each and then hopefully I'll have a baseline to decide which crosses are worth growing out next, if any.   |
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Post by raymondo on Aug 2, 2014 17:48:56 GMT -5
Excellent. It will be great to see the results.
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Post by 12540dumont on Aug 21, 2014 10:34:10 GMT -5
I finally got around to checking the Ned Kellys. More than half of them are beginning to sprout inside.
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Post by oxbowfarm on Aug 21, 2014 12:59:12 GMT -5
Holly, More than half of the seeds in every fruit? Or more than half of the fruits had sprouting? The second one would indicate an obvious ability to select for longer pepita dormancy.
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Post by 12540dumont on Aug 21, 2014 18:01:47 GMT -5
Half the seeds in the ones I opened. Clearly they are just starting to sprout. I set aside seeds that did not sprout in the ones I opened. I won't get any squash this year. The squash bugs have killed everything. I got a few Jade Numbats. Only Yellow Joe has not succumbed. I will have to BUY squash. That's never happened before.
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Post by templeton on Aug 22, 2014 7:54:42 GMT -5
hi,
need a hand with SH growouts? just prepared a new big bed at garden #2
T
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Post by oxbowfarm on Aug 22, 2014 18:09:16 GMT -5
I am happy to share seed with anyone, this year my Ned Kelly patch is looking great and I will likely have lots of F4 and F5 seed to send for others to trial. None of it will be ripe for several more weeks yet.
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Post by 12540dumont on Aug 23, 2014 13:48:02 GMT -5
Templeton, I'll send you some that are ready now. PM me if you want anything else  In for a penny, in for a pound. Sterling that is. |
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Post by oxbowfarm on Sept 13, 2014 14:20:29 GMT -5
 Harvested the selfed fruits, unfortunately I lost plants 5 and 6 to some kind of viral yellow disease before they set any viable fruit. raymondo |
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Post by raymondo on Sept 15, 2014 17:39:28 GMT -5
I'm glad the acorn shape has prevailed. It's quite attractive. Looking forward to taste reports.
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Post by Day on Dec 17, 2017 20:46:13 GMT -5
Wow, I'm really interested in this thread. Oddly, I had plans to do almost exactly the same thing this season, even using Thelma Sanders, which is a bit spooky. My naked seeded parent would be the hybrid Pepitas F1 however, which I planted last season, with the F2 planted this season. But I wanted to see how widely it would segregate before crossing it, so the project wouldn't really start until 'second summer' in my long growing season, or maybe not even until next spring.
But considering how much work you all have already done on improving eating quality in the nude fruits and how successful it seems to have been, I might scrap those plans and do a complete 180 -- perhaps crossing naked varieties with the largest, seediest pepos and working larger yields of naked seeds at the expense of eating quality.
Either way, I'm definitely going to keep an eye on this thread and would love more updates when they become available! A really useful and fascinating breeding project.
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Post by oxbowfarm on Dec 18, 2017 5:59:15 GMT -5
Well, here on my end I haven't been able to do much work on this project for the last few years between lack of time to get the Ned Kelly in the ground, to drought destroying my squash plantings, I've had two dud years in a row that have eaten into my seed stock. In terms of the picture from September 2014, unfortunately all those bigger squash numbers 7-10 were outcrossed to something hulled at Holly's farm and so they didn't amount to anything. Day, I would say the big effort and difficulty with making a naked strain is in the F2 generation after a hulled/naked cross (assuming you've selfed or backcrossed to naked in the F1). You have to grow out 30+ plants to find a naked segregate. So it uses up a lot of space with squash that don't go anywhere. It might be a bit easier with a backcross than a selfed plant. |
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Post by philagardener on Dec 18, 2017 6:36:35 GMT -5
You have to grow out 30+ plants to find a naked segregate. . . It might be a bit easier with a backcross than a selfed plant. Anyone know how many genetic loci are involved? (These numbers suggest at least two.) |
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