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Post by steev on Sept 25, 2013 21:34:09 GMT -5
Green tomatoes are an excellent cooked vegetable in their own right, as an addition to stews and such (apples are another under-appreciated addition to such). The idea that "tomato" requires "ripe" is ludicrous. Especially since, in the commercial trade, "ripe" means "red", not "mature", nor worth eating.
I'm sure any regular viewer on this site is aware of my view on "fried green tomatoes": an iconic food; raaly, 'tis.
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Post by DarJones on Sept 26, 2013 12:42:56 GMT -5
/me hangs a fried green tomato from Steev's nose where he can see it and smell it but can't eat it, then makes appropriate comments about Steev's new Christmas ornament.
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Post by richardw on Oct 2, 2013 3:45:40 GMT -5
I still have enough time to catch any of the last of the spring frosts before summer kicks in so what ive just done is ive sown some Jagodka seeds today along with some more Matts Wild Cherry,to get any frosts from now on its going to take a cold air mass off Antarctic to do so.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Oct 5, 2013 20:55:52 GMT -5
Hard freeze this morning. (This is about a month late.) All tomato plants very seriously damaged. The nearest weather station reported 26F. I suppose an additional 8 to 10 degrees of radiant cooling should be subtracted from that... Most fruit was destroyed on most plants... There where two plants with dense compact foliage which protected the fruit from freezing. I evaluated the plants the night before the freeze. Maybe I'll post details some day. So tired. Done with frost-emergency-harvest, but gotta finish harvesting non-frost sensitive crops before winter snowcover arrives.
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Post by billw on Oct 7, 2013 14:39:45 GMT -5
Green tomatoes are an excellent cooked vegetable in their own right, as an addition to stews and such (apples are another under-appreciated addition to such). In fact, they are an excellent vegetable uncooked. I don't like raw ripe tomatoes (cooked, they're fine), but I do like raw green tomatoes. |
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Post by DarJones on Oct 7, 2013 16:54:12 GMT -5
/me looks askance at billw, shudders a bit, remembers a song about "little green apples".
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Post by imgrimmer on Oct 11, 2013 13:05:43 GMT -5
dear fusionpower
I just picked my last tomatoes in the field we had frost and nearly all plants died except some survived in some parts. they are claimed as a S. habrochaites cross which I bought via internet, but they look pretty normal to me, each plant is different but taste as every other tomato i have. do you think it could be a cross?
I have no idea how they should look or taste like, so may be it is just a hardier normal tomato...
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Post by DarJones on Oct 11, 2013 14:31:34 GMT -5
imgrim, S. Habrochaites is the source of the best cold tolerance genes we have at present so it is possible they are indeed cold tolerant. Do you have any history on them? or can link to the source?
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Post by imgrimmer on Oct 11, 2013 15:40:30 GMT -5
I bought them on tradewindfruits. I guess also they sell it as a cross it isn`t F1, then they should have been more uniform. all plants showed a good resitance to late blight. I collected seeds, they will be among the first plants outside next year... how should a habrochites hybrid taste?
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Post by richardw on Oct 12, 2013 14:01:58 GMT -5
This morning would have been a great chance to have had my Matts Wild Cherry seedlings outside with a -1.8Cdeg frost,both are just too small at the moment so another couple of weeks and they maybe old enough to catch the last of the spring frosts.
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Post by 12540dumont on Nov 5, 2013 15:58:11 GMT -5
Okay, so it's not true frost, at 34 last night, but at about 41 degrees F in my garden most tomatoes start getting black spots.
Tomatoes that were wonderful all year, suddenly taste icky (yes, that's a technical term for spitter).
So there were three tomatoes, that still looked great this morning, and tasted just as fine as on a lovely day in July.
Steev, get that tomato off the end of your nose and pay attention.
Dar's Piennolo del Vesuvius
Lieven's Teardrop
and Picardy!
The Sioux Cosmo cross which kept me in cherries all season, made a bonus picking of late tomatoes, but at 41, was no longer edible...but the birds are enjoying them.
I got 2 pickings of Piennolo. One in July and one October/November. I'm just finishing up the first batch that have sat on my counter since July! I hope these ones last as long, because I can't abide store bought tomatoes.
As for Picardy, it stopped producing right about in the heat of August and came back to finish the season beautifully. It's a yummy tomato and the compact vine is terrific.
I picked Lieven's all summer. You wouldn't believe how many new green tomatoes were on this! However, I can't abide green tomatoes...at least uncooked...shudder. I got one more half tray today of perfectly ripe delicious tomatoes. These vines are huge! They outgrew there 6' cages and would have continued getting taller, if there was anything else to grow on....trellis tomatoes?
So, normally I get frost on Halloween.
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Post by DarJones on Nov 6, 2013 1:57:25 GMT -5
Please give credit for Piennolo to Craig LeHoullier. He sent me the original seed. Very good to hear that they are meeting your expectations.
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Post by 12540dumont on Nov 7, 2013 18:00:12 GMT -5
Okay Dar, I wrote to NCtomatoman and thanked him. Hey, I didn't know that he was the source of Cherokee Green. One of my favorite green tomatoes! nctomatoman.weebly.com/from-the-vine---2013-plants.html For you tomato heads, some interesting tomatoes, not rated as to cold tolerance.  |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Jan 1, 2014 3:53:26 GMT -5
I have been analyzing the data regarding harvest from the cold tolerant tomato trial. Jagodka and Matina started the season off. Jagodka quickly outpaced every other tomato in the garden for cumulative fruits produced. Matina maintained second place for a month. Then it was overtaken by Nevskiy Red which quickly climbed to the number one spot and stayed there for the rest of the season. Cumulative productivity of Jagodka (planted early) was about double the productivity of a similar sized landrace tomato (planted on normal schedule). Bellstar was a surprise to me. It didn't distinguish itself during the growing season. But by producing a few fruits per week the cumulative total looked good. I graphed the production of representative varieties. I included a sample of the late maturing tomatoes. They were harvested primarily as green tomatoes about 3 weeks after the fall frosts start in a typical year. The width of the line approximately corresponds with the relative diameter of the fruits. Here's what the graph looks like:  |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Jan 1, 2014 12:43:24 GMT -5
RichardW: With the heavy bumblebee presence on Jagodka I'll be interested to hear if any obviously cross pollinated hybrids show up in your planting. I saw a bee on one of your photos a couple weeks ago. Do you have bumblebees?
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