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Post by cortona on Jul 21, 2013 5:58:07 GMT -5
some time ago exist a tread about this kale and the attempt to cross it to some other cale in order to transfere the pereniality to something other, under irrigation stress(no water and strong hot weater) the past year one of my two daubenton plants(clones of the same plant from a friend here) flower and i have in the same period black kale flowering so i try to hand pollinate the two; after several attempt i've obtained around 15/20 seeds that looks nice, this spring i've test sowed 5 seeds and of this i've obtained 2 good plants that i've trnsplanted near the two daubenton hoping in a possible flowering of the daubenton for a backcros i've take some photos to show wath i've achieved    the shape and color are really in between the two parents and the ofseting abit are really interessant for me because here we eat principally the tender ofshot so...that's good, let see wath happen with flowering (i plan to cross the two plants in order to have f2 seeds that can show greather diversiti but if one of this two show perenniality i will clone it happily!) |
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Post by raymondo on Jul 21, 2013 17:34:27 GMT -5
Nice work cortona. Growing out the offspring will be interesting.
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Post by richardw on Jul 21, 2013 19:02:46 GMT -5
They certainly look healthy
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Post by cesarz on Jul 30, 2013 3:25:45 GMT -5
The offspring look like healthy green ribbed versions of Wild Garden Seed's Lacinato Rainbow (Lacinato x RedBor).
Would be nice to duplicate that here Down Under.
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Post by richardw on Sept 4, 2013 22:09:04 GMT -5
My two Daubenton plants are now into there second growing season but haven't grown any roots off there side shoots,maybe this summer they might as the clump spreads wider.  |
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Post by cortona on Sept 7, 2013 6:34:22 GMT -5
i tink you have to take cuttings from your plant to have new ones, it create new roots in a moment in my experience!
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Post by ottawagardener on Sept 7, 2013 8:26:52 GMT -5
Nice!
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Post by richardw on Sept 7, 2013 13:50:46 GMT -5
i tink you have to take cuttings from your plant to have new ones, it create new roots in a moment in my experience! The fella who gave it to me had it many years and had in the end spread over a wide area ,he said it lay roots down where it was in contact with the ground so we'll see what it does over the next 6 months,if not i can always do as you say and take cuttings |
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Post by nicollas on Sept 8, 2013 1:03:29 GMT -5
What i've heard from a friend who owns one is to take cuttings every several years to duplicate the plant because it sometimes dies quite quickly without expectation
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Post by richardw on Sept 8, 2013 5:00:02 GMT -5
Ok,maybe its a ideal climate for it here because where this daubenton originally came from it had been in growing happily for over 40 years
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Post by cesarz on Sept 8, 2013 5:05:57 GMT -5
My two Daubenton plants are now into there second growing season but haven't grown any roots off there side shoots,maybe this summer they might as the clump spreads wider. Hey Richard, That looks like Couve Tronchuda "Asa de Cantaro". Does it have tiny "heads" in the centre of each growth? If it produces white flowere in the future then it is Asa de Cantaro. Just telling because I have the same looking plant and has not flowered for four years since germination. I bought the seeds from JardiCentro in Portugal. Cheers, Cesar |
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Post by cortona on Sept 8, 2013 6:07:03 GMT -5
wel... looking more accuratelly to your photo it looks a bit different from my daubenton, but i think it exist more tan one clone that are called this way, probably due to saltuary flowering plants like mine
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Post by richardw on Sept 8, 2013 13:13:28 GMT -5
My two Daubenton plants are now into there second growing season but haven't grown any roots off there side shoots,maybe this summer they might as the clump spreads wider. Hey Richard, That looks like Couve Tronchuda "Asa de Cantaro". Does it have tiny "heads" in the centre of each growth? If it produces white flowere in the future then it is Asa de Cantaro. Just telling because I have the same looking plant and has not flowered for three years since germination. I bought the seeds from JardiCentro in Portugal. Cheers, Cesar No its never produced tiny heads for me,Julian or the lady who had it for 40+years before that Is this the one you are talking about allseedsstore.com/vegetable-seeds-portuguese-kale-tronchuda-kale-brassica-couve-tronchuda-portuguesa-cantaro-p-3017.html |
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Post by richardw on Sept 8, 2013 13:48:17 GMT -5
wel... looking more accuratelly to your photo it looks a bit different from my daubenton, but i think it exist more tan one clone that are called this way, probably due to saltuary flowering plants like mine According to Frank(orflo)he's adamant that its daubenton even though i felt the leafs looked more round that what ive seen from photos on the web. Here's more close ups   |
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Post by robertb on Sept 8, 2013 15:52:54 GMT -5
That might need to be allowed to grow out a bit if you want sideshoots. When I took some of my shoots off a few weeks ago, I found mini roots already present. There wasn't anyhting like that last year.
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