Anasazi beans and off-springs

[steev]

I pl*nte* V*quero thi* ye*r; they tot*lly *izzle* in the high temper*ture*, but *re growing well now; might pro*uce be*ore col*-kill.

[blueadzuki]

Oct 23, 2013 9:37:18 GMT -5 jayb said:

Thanks both, taste good too  :)I came across Rancho Gordo web site when I did a search for black and white Anasazi beans - Vaquero they look gorgeous.

There's also a brown and white version out there, called New Mexico cave (as far as I am concerned, except for the seed color, the two seem more or less the same bean, right down to the same bullsh**t origin story).
Actually now that I think of it, more of less the reversed of this happened with my vulgaris beans. despite both the Bantus and the Fort portal mixed I sowed being a rather wide spectrum of seed colors (from tans, through purples and olives; and down to maroons, and near blacks for the Portals)EVERY seed I got back from both of them was purple (well except for some FP's I picked too early; those dried white with a slight purple blush) And my one and only survivng speckled grey went in as black mottled over tan and came back as purple over white (though 1. I'm not 100% sure that was the speckled grey, there were 4 different beans in that pot of which one made a pod, it could have been one of the others and 2. that plant conked out before the pod was 100% done, so the seed could be immature (which can effect color a LOT).

[Andre]

5 weeks later only one bean did sprout (maybe I soaked the seeds too much...).

First flowers appears. The good point is that it will be mandatory self pollinated.


Anasazi bean F2 Off spring - Nov 22, 2013

[galina]

Nov 22, 2013 4:45:43 GMT -5 Andre said:

5 weeks later only one bean did sprout (maybe I soaked the seeds too much...).

First flowers appears. The good point is that it will be mandatory self pollinated.


Anasazi bean F2 Off spring - Nov 22, 2013

WOW, they have made some progress! Congratulations, looking good. This is getting very exciting. What is the flower colour?

[Andre]

White as you can see.

Anasazi bean F2 Flower

[Andre]

7 weeks later. Work in progress !

Anasazi beans F2 growing

[galina]

Not long now and you'll get a peak at the seeds

[oxbowfarm]

Late into this discussion, going to throw in my $0.02 anyway.

I grow Brown Trout which is is a brown bean with the same white mottled color pattern as Andre's original Anazazi and other similar beans like Jacob's Cattle etc.

I am aware that I have a small amount of outcrossed genetics in my Brown Trout, but most of them are breeding fairly true ( true enough for me). This year the brown/white mottled seeds produced an overwhelming amount of all brown beans, but still showing some small white areas on some of the beans. I'd say what I planted had a 1:1 brown-white ratio, the harvest was more like 9:1. Bean shape and size was unaffected, and the plants and flowers were normal. I suspect that the expression of white mottling in beans of this color pattern can be affected by growing conditions.

I still think that Andre's bean results are from a crossing event though, the beans are a different color and completely different shape.

[Andre]

And here is what I'd just harvest !


Anasazi beans - F2

Almost he same than F1... No more mottled pattern at all...

[galina]

Jan 13, 2014 15:55:31 GMT -5 Andre said:

And here is what I'd just harvest !


Anasazi beans - F2

Almost he same than F1... No more mottled pattern at all...

And now we know. Thankyou for showing us.

[keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.)]

I grow these red Anasazi beans quite regularly. I've also grown small red beans which are the same bean, but without the white mottled pattern. This happenened to me once when i grew Anasazi. Sometimes you get a mutation or epigenetic marker going on where the Anasazi randomly reverts back to its original pure red color. Any offspring from it will never revert back. Congrats, now you have some plain small red beans, which are still very delicious. But its not a cross.

[flowerbug]

if all those seeds came from just one plant then yes, you ended up harvesting from a crossed seed that looked like the parent but was on its way to becoming a different bean.

i planted Anasazi beans for the first time this past year and i only planted a few seeds but all of them came true to the parental pattern much like what you planted. they were very productive even after mostly being eaten off the fence by a deer or groundhog so i will be growing them again this coming season to see how they do again, but also so i have enough that i can cook some up to eat from the dry beans.